Garuda set to cut back further, axe more of the remaining international network.

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Saudi Arabia charters are the only destination mentioned to be safe. My guess on the other 3 routes is SYD, ICN and NRT HND ex-CGK.

Whether the CGK/DPS-SYD triangle survives is another question entirely. If GA exits SYD-DPS, this leaves only the QF/VA 737s, Lion Groups Batik's 73M and JQ's A320/788s.
 
The logical gaps in the article are that:
1. GA don’t have the domestic presence and dominance across the archipelago they used to.
2. They’re more expensive than everyone else in the domestic market.
I just don’t see how they’re going to succeed with their domestic focus plan!

Lion Air group are massive and appear to have about ten times the number of routes of GA. I know this as I’ve flown a couple of times domestically this year and planned other trips, and every time I try to use GA, or Citilink (QG), but it’s difficult. GA might have one flight a day if they serve the city; Lion group will have five or six flights… I will not fly on Indonesia Air Asia, or the new Super Air Jet, and try to avoid Lion group whenever possible as they’re too unreliable. GA have very significant competition.

The other factor is their price. I flew PKU-CGK on GA last week, a domestic sector of about 90 minutes. Flights on most of the carriers were about AUD140. GA was 190, which I was happy to pay for what I perceive as a safer organisation and definitely a more reliable one, but I’m not sure most people in Indonesia could or would, do the same. Sure there is a middle class of about 25 million people in this country, so there is a market for people who can afford to pay more for better quality, but it appears most are happy to pay for the cheaper ticket.

Personally, I would have thought that targeting the international market would have given them more of a difference from the plethora of more domestic focussed LCCs, but clearly not.
Then there’s the issue of how much of the graft and corruption has been cleared out to get their costs under control? And how much of the cost problem is based on dodgy long term contracts they can’t escape from?

Good luck GA. I think you’re going to need it.
 
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I don’t think GA wont survive unfortunately. Was the best way to get to Bali from Australia so will miss it if they disappear
 
Just taken an interest in Garuda, as looking at a one-way flight to Bali next Christmas. GA J less than VA and MUCH less than QF.
 
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Just taken an interest in Garuda, as looking at a one-way flight to Bali next Christmas. GA J less than VA and MUCH less than QF.
Generally plenty of QF J CR seats to CGK (I have another set soon doing our Euro Xmas thing).

Should be pretty cheap then to get to DPS next day. Indon visa is still $50 and an airport hotel is $50 - $100 pn.
 
On a cruise from Bali through the eastern Indonesian archipelago through to Cairns. I think it’ll be okay 😊
Absolutely.
I like flying them on the way over but look at better alternatives on the way home. I find it just too short of a flight to get any sleep and their meal timings are a bit weird so I often struggle for more than about an hour of sleep after being up all day. Way over is excellent especially from MEL as you are at your hotel in Bali before lunch
 

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