General Coronavirus chit chat thread - non-travel specific

[drron]

I dont know that DIL SLE is induced by plaquenil? It's a treatment drug for it.

It's officially listed but it probably isn't a cause when you look at the number of reports to the FDA in the USA.

Plaquenil and Drug induced lupus erythematosus, a phase IV clinical study of FDA data - eHealthMe

Drug induced lupus erythematosus is found among people who take Plaquenil, especially for people who are female, 30-39 old,

www.ehealthme.com

That's right just 1 case reported in 2000.

Here is an article on DIL.

Plaquenil and Drug induced lupus erythematosus, a phase IV clinical study of FDA data - eHealthMe

Drug induced lupus erythematosus is found among people who take Plaquenil, especially for people who are female, 30-39 old,

www.ehealthme.com

A lot of the drugs were used much more commonly over 40 years ago so us old dinosaurs are aware of it.Great to see someone with the diagnosis of SLE for some other problem,recognise the offending drug,stop it and in a few weeks usually they are cured of their SLE.You can imagine how pleased some are.

 

[Flashback]

We overlook the sea, I'm sure you've noticed by now. It will be interesting to see how the weekend goes. It's going to be 30 here tomorrow. I shall take pictures.

That's about 31 degrees warmer than here ...... -1 when I woke up, anyway. Blue skies at least though... so yay?

But at least I woke up.

 

[LadyC]

Was lucky enough to get into the dentist today for some work on one of my molars. They are only open now for emergency work here in Victoria and maybe shut down even further. My molar had a crack and was repaired two weeks ago but the crack was bigger than anticipated. The dentist has put a metal band on it so hopefully that will be okay until the dentist can get back to usual operations.

 

[Flying mermaid]

Well here’s a question from me. Every weekend I make food for Ms FM we go round and deliver it and spend an hour or so with her and Bub. Apart from that Mr FM does a weekly shop and the rest of the time we stay home apart from walking the dogs.

Should we not be visiting? It’s a big house and apart from cuddling Bub we would be keeping social distancing easily. I really don’t want to give up my weekly cuddle!

 

[ethernet]

PM said don't use the word lockdown as being alarmist. How about social life strangulation, bit by bit you are being isolated, and I look forward to the day when Facebook is also banned and only 300 by 300 pixel selfies. Or the correct term, physical isolation, where I have to tell blondes in the supermarket to get back.

Lately one coughhead insurance company decided to block front line health workers, people with asthma, existing lung conditions, and blah blah. Hopefully AMAor someone will launch a class action, and included deceased victims. If I were on a jury, I see their actions foreseeably responsible for harm and premature death. I hope this ends up costing them more than what they hope to save.

It is distressing to hear about 45 Italian doctors have died because of Rona. I see some brilliant research is being done, and this reminded me of 1960 coughnic based antivirals(Yeah toxic), plus some later gold salt drugs around ACE2. There have been some brilliant posts - but so far, nothing announced about hypertension drug and nicotine. I privately wonder how many doctors remember early toxic wonderdrugs, and legally would they have the guts to prescribe to someone in ICU fast running out of time.

 

[Denali]

Well here’s a question from me. Every weekend I make food for Ms FM we go round and deliver it and spend an hour or so with her and Bub. Apart from that Mr FM does a weekly shop and the rest of the time we stay home apart from walking the dogs.

Should we not be visiting? It’s a big house and apart from cuddling Bub we would be keeping social distancing easily. I really don’t want to give up my weekly cuddle!

As Mr FM does a weekly shop personally I would stay away from Bub. I wouldn't even go in their house, sit outside a few mtrs apart.

But that's me.

 

[amaroo]

One of our businesses has just been granted "Essential Services COVID-19 Pandemic" status. Email with formal letter just received, totally out of the blue.... the team will be very happy.

 

[PineappleSkip]

Question, re: Stay at home.

Hubby wants to do diving. He literally will go from home to car to dive site, get geared up, go into ocean, get out of ocean, back to car, take off gear, get in car and drive home.

His buddy will be many meters away at all times. They dont even park next to each other.

Still OK?

The NSW and Vic orders, which I quoted somewhere or other, say its ok to go out, so long as no reasonable chance of close contact. Last I looked SA published material says no, Qld implies no (but can’t find an instrument supporting this in either state). Isn’t it good having States

Was lucky enough to get into the dentist today for some work on one of my molars. They are only open now for emergency work here in Victoria and maybe shut down even further. My molar had a crack and was repaired two weeks ago but the crack was bigger than anticipated. The dentist has put a metal band on it so hopefully that will be okay until the dentist can get back to usual operations.

My dentist cancelled my routine checkup next week, but that’s ok, I was thinking of cancelling anyway. Apparently som3 new guidelines put out by the Dentistry board and the ADA.

Mrs Pineapple got the news that her hairdresser was over it and shutting down. Atvleast the lawn is mostly mowed, if not her hair.

cheers skip

 

[Pushka]

Well here’s a question from me. Every weekend I make food for Ms FM we go round and deliver it and spend an hour or so with her and Bub. Apart from that Mr FM does a weekly shop and the rest of the time we stay home apart from walking the dogs.

Should we not be visiting? It’s a big house and apart from cuddling Bub we would be keeping social distancing easily. I really don’t want to give up my weekly cuddle!

Sadly you should not be visiting. We stopped almost two weeks ago. So I share your pain.

 

[tgh]

FM.. life is all about risk and reality .. will that car hit me , will I wake up tomorrow
Are you happy with the risk ?
It's your call but others may suffer …...
We are finding the discipline challenging , simple everyday things like our very exposed educator son declining to call in because he thinks he is high risk.

 

[Pushka]

FM.. life is all about risk and reality .. will that car hit me , will I wake up tomorrow
Are you happy with the risk ?
It's your call but others may suffer …...
We are finding the discipline challenging , simple everyday things like our very exposed educator son declining to call in because he thinks he is high risk.

Our children stopped the visits. DIL is worried about me. I worry about the baby. My other son said he would never forgive himself if he gave us the virus - he is in essential work and will keep working.

 

[amaroo]

FM.. life is all about risk and reality .. will that car hit me , will I wake up tomorrow
Are you happy with the risk ?
It's your call but others may suffer …...
We are finding the discipline challenging , simple everyday things like our very exposed educator son declining to call in because he thinks he is high risk.

We as a whole have ceased close contact with our parents 80 - 90 years of age, food, medicine placed at the door. Whatever they need we get, but no contact other than a conversation from a distance.

I really feel for the ones that are locked up on their own - must be truly awful.

 

[I love to travel]

It has just dawned on me. No one is talking about Africa. Why?

 

[Flying mermaid]

FM.. life is all about risk and reality .. will that car hit me , will I wake up tomorrow
Are you happy with the risk ?
It's your call but others may suffer …...
We are finding the discipline challenging , simple everyday things like our very exposed educator son declining to call in because he thinks he is high risk.

I really am not worried about the risk to us. Just want to do the “right thing”. Ms FM is on mat leave so she is not going anywhere or seeing anyone. We aren’t either. The only wild card is son-in-law and he works outside as a landscaper so his contact is minimal.

I had not even thought of it as an issue, but media is bombarding us with stay home, don’t go anywhere messages.....

 

[Pushka]

It has just dawned on me. No one is talking about Africa. Why?

Because it's more than we can cope with in our own lives right now?

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I really am not worried about the risk to us. Just want to do the “right thing”. Ms FM is on mat leave so she is not going anywhere or seeing anyone. We aren’t either. The only wild card is son-in-law and he works outside as a landscaper so his contact is minimal.

I had not even thought of it as an issue, but media is bombarding us with stay home, don’t go anywhere messages.....

Stay home. I'm not the least bit worried about the risk to us. But the kids are. They are worried enough right now. I can't add to their burden.

 

[Flying mermaid]

It has just dawned on me. No one is talking about Africa. Why?

It’s going to be a disaster. They have almost no ability to test or contact trace, so reported numbers will stay small but deaths won’t.

EDiT - I sent my brother an email a few days ago asking how they were going - I suspect the reply will be depressing.....

 

[I love to travel]

Because it's more than we can cope with in our own lives right now?

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Stay home.

I was scared that someone would reply with a sensible answer like that. God help them is all I can say.

 

[Pushka]

I was scared that someone would reply with a sensible answer like that. God help them is all I can say.

And god help our Indigenous Communities as well. And the Pacific Islands.

 

[Flying mermaid]

As Mr FM does a weekly shop personally I would stay away from Bub. I wouldn't even go in their house, sit outside a few mtrs apart.

But that's me.

Bub and Ms FM going shopping with him - she can’t get home delivery and is having trouble shopping with Bub. I guess we need to have a discussion with them as to what they want to do.

 

[Flying mermaid]

Stay home. I'm not the least bit worried about the risk to us. But the kids are. They are worried enough right now. I can't add to their burden.

they would be worried about you with your health issues.