General COVID-19 Vaccine Discussion

[OZDUCK]

EU has not ordered AstraZeneca vaccines beyond June

The Commission launched legal action against AstraZeneca for not respecting its contract for the supply of vaccines and for not having a plan to ensure timely deliveries.

www.smh.com.au

This may make it harder for us to get more Pfizer, but pretty much confirms EU has given up on AZ.

There was an article in the New York Times today about how Germany is now using AZ to help knock down their 'third wave of infections. However I do think that it will remain only as a 'back-up' vaccine.

Germany Is Seeing Virus Cases Go Down and Vaccinations Go Up (Published 2021)

The country appears to be breaking a tough third wave of the virus, and one of its tools is the AstraZeneca vaccine, which it spent months questioning.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Princess Fiona]

Some very encouraging real world data coming out of South Korea
Forbes

“A single dose of Pfizer or AstraZeneca's COVID-19 vaccines was more than 86% effective at stopping coronavirus in older people at least two weeks after vaccination, real-world data from South Korea shows”

 

[mviy]

Well if the EU doesn't want AZ anymore maybe that will mean that other countries can get more of it.

 

[JohnM]

They used to offer beer at the blood bank!

Worse than that - when I started donating blood, the Red Cross gave out free cigarettes after a donation.

 

[jase05]

Worse than that - when I started donating blood, the Red Cross gave out free cigarettes after a donation.

My old man told me that and I thought he was having a lend of me. Different era though hey

 

[jakeseven7]

Well if the EU doesn't want AZ anymore maybe that will mean that other countries can get more of it.

Sure but it’s fake news, EU still wants and is using AZ widely, no matter how many times it is breathlessly condemned on here by someone who I can only assume owns a lot of Pfizer stock

 

[Lynda2475]

Vlad the vaccinator: Dracula's castle lures visitors with COVID-19 jabs

Visitors to Dracula's castle are more likely to find puncture marks in their arms than their necks this month, after medics set up a COVID-19 vaccination centre at the Transylvanian attraction.

www.abc.net.au

Lots of different incentives across the world.

If Australia's pace continues to crawl i can see more and more people seeking vaccine tourism.

 

[Lynda2475]

US children over the age of 12 are now eligible for a COVID vaccine

The US announces it has given authorisation for the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine to be given to children aged between 12 and 15. Could a teenage vaccination drive be in Australia's future, too?

www.abc.net.au

 

[Lynda2475]

Sure but it’s fake news, EU still wants and is using AZ widely

Not fake news, orders beyond June cancelled and AZ use is limited to older age groups, so it is not being used as widely as the MRNA vaccine options.

AZ in Europe is limited per below:

• BRITAIN - now only recommending AZ for over 40s (was over 30s)
• ESTONIA - Suspended use of the vaccine for people under 60 on April 7.
• FRANCE - Approved resumption of the vaccine on March 19 but said it should be given only to people aged 55 and over. On April 9, recommended that recipients of a first dose of the AstraZeneca shot who are under 55 should receive a second dose with a messenger RNA vaccine.
• FINLAND - for people aged 65 and over only.
• GERMANY - On March 31, issued guidance to limit use of the vaccine to those aged over 60. On April 1, vaccine commission recommended people under 60 who have had a first shot of the vaccine should receive a different product for their second dose
• IRELAND - restricting use of the vaccine to those over 60.
• ITALY - Has recommended the vaccine be used only for people over 60
• NETHERLANDS - Limited use of the vaccine to people over 60
• NORTH MACEDONIA - Health minister said on March 31 the vaccine would be limited to people aged over 60
• SPAIN - From April 8, it was giving the vaccine only to people over 60.
• SWEDEN - Resumed use of the vaccine on March 25 for people aged 65 and older
• DENMARK, NORWAY - suspended altogether

 

[Oneworldplus2]

At our current pace of roughly 365,000 doses a week, we can expect to reach the 40 million doses needed to fully vaccinate Australia’s adult population in late April 2023.

Charting the jab: Daily vaccinations rates lift in the wake of rollout reset

Too slow. 2023. l'm sure that the vaccination hubs speed up the roll out.

 

[serfty]

Too slow. 2023. l'm sure that the vaccination hubs speed up the roll out.

Moreover that article's methodology is disputed.

 

[hb13]

Moreover that article's methodology is disputed.

Who and why is disputing it? What proof is there that the roll-out will actually go quicker? It's been a catastrophic s***-show so far....

 

[serfty]

Who and why is disputing it? What proof is there that the roll-out will actually go quicker? It's been a catastrophic s***-show so far....

I have disputed the methodology in another thread along with other members. Even if the rate does not increase, using the same raw data as the article referred to does, the worst case estimate is July next year for every adult who wants to be vaccinated to have at least two jabs.

 

[jakeseven7]

Not fake news, orders beyond June cancelled and AZ use is limited to older age groups, so it is not being used as widely as the MRNA vaccine options.

So still being used widely across EU countries for specific age groups.

You do you, as always

 

[jase05]

We likely won’t see Novavax here in Australia this year.

Novavax shares sink after it again delays timelines for seeking regulatory approval for its Covid vaccine​

Novavax on Monday again delayed its timeline for ramping up Covid-19 vaccine production and said it does not expect to seek regulatory authorization for the shot in the United States, Britain and Europe until the third quarter of 2021, sending its shares tumbling.

The Maryland-based company has repeatedly pushed back production forecasts and has struggled to access raw materials and equipment needed to make its vaccine. Novavax shares fell more than 9% in extended trading after closing nearly 9% lower on Monday.

The pushback of regulatory filings “to Q3 (from Q2) and a downward revision to time to full production to Q4 (from Q3), represent delays to prior timelines and difficulty in growing,” said Kelechi Chikere, an equity analyst at Jefferies in a Monday note.

Novavax said it does not expect to hit its production target of 150 million shots per month until the fourth quarter of 2021, later than its previous forecast of sometime in the third quarter. It had also previously said it could see U.S. regulatory authorization as soon as May.

 

[Lynda2475]

So still being used widely narrowly across some EU countries for specific highly limited older age groups

Fixed that for you!

 

[Lynda2475]

Good to see some competition to CSL emerging in the move to bring MRNA capability onshore.

Australia sets sights on vaccine self-sufficiency with Pfizer manufacturing proposal

Australia could begin local production of Pfizer and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines within six to 12 months, an international biotech company says — but such a scheme would depend on approvals and investment.

www.abc.net.au

 

[ethernet]

Who and why is disputing it? What proof is there that the roll-out will actually go quicker? It's been a catastrophic s***-show so far....

Normally I would agree. However the consultant's reports have been undone, and after a 2 month talkfest and active resistance to reality, walk in hubs are underway, and unnecessary age barriers slackened. Plus the bad news from Indian one, has renewed interest in getting the iffy shot. It is my expectation 50% will be doable quickly.

Ironically the Budget's mid 2022 no fly forecast has damaged the vaccination effort, because no-vaxxers or fence-sitters, wait-a-while dopes think they are being protected a while longer. In reality a 3rd variant dose will be available by then, while NDIS will recruit the fools who did not get vaccinated getting 'long-Covid' : victims for donkeys.

 

[OZDUCK]

'Mixing' vaccines causes more 'minor' side effects. It seems unlikely to occur here but still interesting to see.

Covid vaccines: Mixing increases reports of mild side-effects

Researchers are still analysing whether injecting two different vaccines leads to better protection.

www.bbc.com

 

[Lynda2475]

'Mixing' vaccines causes more 'minor' side effects. It seems unlikely to occur here but still interesting to see.

Yes, and we need to see the data because:

1. Many Aussies who are waiting to return have been vaccinated overseas with vaccines which are unlikely to ever be approved by TGA for use here. There was an article a few weeks ago about a number of expats who are working in China and ME who have had the less effective Chinese vaccines as that is all that is available, but once they return to Australia will need to be re-vaccinated or receive booster of a different kind.

2. As more supply of MRNA vaccines and other newer vaccines types become available to deal with variants, its likely that many of those who originally had AZ will want their booster to be something other than AZ.

Because some EU countries arent not giving the second doses of AZ to under 65s, there will be more real world data re vaccine mixing from EU very soon.

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Ohio offers million-dollar prizes and scholarships to get people COVID vaccinated

Ohio's governor is offering big lottery incentives — including a million-dollar prize and college scholarships — in a last-ditch effort to get people vaccinated against coronavirus before state orders such as mandatory mark-wearing end.

www.abc.net.au