General Discussion/Q&A on Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[drron]

Well some apolitical news on Hydroxychloroquine.As I have said all along if the recommended doses are used serious side effects are rare.

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The saliva test which will certainly be easier to perform.

Self-collected saliva test could detect silent SARS-CoV-2 carriers

Self-collected saliva is a valuable specimen to detect severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) in mass screening of asymptomatic persons, according to a study published in Clinical Infectious Diseases.“Rapid detection of asymptomatic infected patients is critical for the...

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Another of the newer vaccines progressing.

Interim data show mRNA-1273 vaccine triggered antibodies, had acceptable safety profile in older adults

Interim data from a Phase I study published in The New England Journal of Medicine showed that adverse events associated with the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) vaccine candidate mRNA-1273 were mainly mild or moderate among adults who were 56 years of age or older. In addition, the 100-μg...

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Though some more indirect evidence that vaccines won't be the magic bullet but more like the flu vaccine.'

Study Finds People Have Short-Lived Immunity to Seasonal Coronaviruses

A key metric in seeking to end the COVID-19 pandemic is the likely duration of acquired immunity, or how long people previously infected with the responsible SARS-CoV-2 virus will be protected agai…

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And trials on convalescent plasma as treatment.

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[TheRealTMA]

Well some apolitical news on Hydroxychloroquine.As I have said all along if the recommended doses are used serious side effects are rare.

Welcome to Precision Vaccinations News

Precision Vaccinations News publishes vaccine news patients can trust to make informed immunization decisions in partnership with doctors, nurses, and pharmacists.

www.coronavirustoday.com

The saliva test which will certainly be easier to perform.

Self-collected saliva test could detect silent SARS-CoV-2 carriers

Self-collected saliva is a valuable specimen to detect severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) in mass screening of asymptomatic persons, according to a study published in Clinical Infectious Diseases.“Rapid detection of asymptomatic infected patients is critical for the...

dgalerts.docguide.com

Another of the newer vaccines progressing.

Interim data show mRNA-1273 vaccine triggered antibodies, had acceptable safety profile in older adults

Interim data from a Phase I study published in The New England Journal of Medicine showed that adverse events associated with the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) vaccine candidate mRNA-1273 were mainly mild or moderate among adults who were 56 years of age or older. In addition, the 100-μg...

dgalerts.docguide.com

Though some more indirect evidence that vaccines won't be the magic bullet but more like the flu vaccine.'

Study Finds People Have Short-Lived Immunity to Seasonal Coronaviruses

A key metric in seeking to end the COVID-19 pandemic is the likely duration of acquired immunity, or how long people previously infected with the responsible SARS-CoV-2 virus will be protected agai…

directorsblog.nih.gov

And trials on convalescent plasma as treatment.

Welcome to Precision Vaccinations News

Precision Vaccinations News publishes vaccine news patients can trust to make informed immunization decisions in partnership with doctors, nurses, and pharmacists.

www.coronavirustoday.com

False news. HCQ is not useful against coronavirus according to peer reviewed evidence. Why do you keep pushing this barrow? Not at all professional behaviour.

 

[drron]

False news. HCQ is not useful against coronavirus according to peer reviewed evidence. Why do you keep pushing this barrow? Not at all professional behaviour.

Could you forget your politics for a while.
I did not say that HCQ was useful against Covid though prevention trials are still ongoing even here in Australia.
the article does not say it is useful against Covid.
But many in their opposition to HCQ have said how dangerous that HCQ is.
So this is what I said.
"As I have said all along if the recommended doses are used serious side effects are rare. "

 

[TheRealTMA]

Could you forget your politics for a while.
I did not say that HCQ was useful against Covid though prevention trials are still ongoing even here in Australia.
the article does not say it is useful against Covid.
But many in their opposition to HCQ have said how dangerous that HCQ is.
So this is what I said.
"As I have said all along if the recommended doses are used serious side effects are rare. "

My response was not political but based on scientific evidence. You’ve been promoting HCQ since February. I don’t believe that is tenable.

 

[drron]

My response was not political but based on scientific evidence. You’ve been promoting HCQ since February. I don’t believe that is tenable.

I'm sorry that you just can't understand my posts.Point out where in that post you first replied to I said anything about the effect of HCQ on Covid.I in fact was presenting the science that refutes your view and several others here that HCQ is a dangerous drug.

 

[Pushka]

On the media that Trump is being admitted to the Military Hospital. I did read that he had been feeling very fatigued and has a fever. Melania is well but with a cough and a headache but at home.

 

[HappyFlyerFamily]

Vice Presidents Pence and Biden test negative for COVID

 

[tgh]

Based on current trends trtma may need to consume some humble pie.. we can also hope that it is consumed publicly for our edification…time will tell
Imo there is significant medical understanding of Hcq and the brouhaha from the naysayers is based on a tenet that the drug does not cure Covid and therefore has no use.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Based on current trends trtma may need to consume some humble pie.. we can also hope that it is consumed publicly for our edification…time will tell
Imo there is significant medical understanding of Hcq and the brouhaha from the naysayers is based on a tenet that the drug does not cure Covid and therefore has no use.

Exactly. It's not a cure. But serious studies on whether it is a good prophylaxis.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Update on White House related Covid 19 testing.

Here's a running list of people who have tested positive and negative. This is a developing story, not a comprehensive list, which we will keep updated in the days to come.

Who has tested positive:

• President Donald Trump
• First lady Melania Trump
• White House Communications Director Hope Hicks
• Republican National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel
• Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah
• Sen. Thom Tillis, R-North Carolina
• Three White House reporters
• One White House staffer
• The Rev. John Jenkins, president of Notre Dame University (Jenkins was at the White House Saturday, when Trump introduced Judge Amy Coney Barrett as his Supreme Court nominee. Barrett was a law professor at Notre Dame for 15 years before Trump nominated her to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 7th Circuit.)

Who has received a negative COVID test:
Campaigns:

• Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden and wife Jill Biden
• Democratic vice presidential candidate Kamala Harris
• Vice President Mike Pence
• Second lady Karen Pence

Trump family members:

• Barron Trump, President Trump's youngest son
• Ivanka Trump, advisor to the president and eldest daughter
• Jared Kushner, White House senior advisor and son-in-law

Administration:

• Chief of Staff Mark Meadows
• Deputy Chief of Staff Dan Scavino
• Secretary of State Mike Pompeo
• Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin
• Acting Homeland Secretary Chad Wolf
• Defense Secretary Mike Esper
• Army Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
• Attorney General William Barr
• Education Secretary Betsy Devos

Other Washington figures of note:

• Supreme Court nominee Amy Coney Barrett
• House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-California
• Sen. Chris Coons, D-Delaware
• Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio

Following Trump WH COVID-19 outbreak: Dozens of officials, associates and others have tested positive

Just days before Election Day, a new COVID-19 outbreak emerged from the White House in the Vice President's office.

www.usatoday.com

 

[teammongo]

Exactly. It's not a cure. But serious studies on whether it is a good prophylaxis.

Believe it or not, most of the studies are serious..

Regarding prophylaxis see this thread.

TM

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Update on White House related Covid 19 testing.

Here's a running list of people who have tested positive and negative. This is a developing story, not a comprehensive list, which we will keep updated in the days to come.

Who has tested positive:

• President Donald Trump
• First lady Melania Trump
• White House Communications Director Hope Hicks
• Republican National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel
• Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah
• Sen. Thom Tillis, R-North Carolina
• Three White House reporters
• One White House staffer
• The Rev. John Jenkins, president of Notre Dame University (Jenkins was at the White House Saturday, when Trump introduced Judge Amy Coney Barrett as his Supreme Court nominee. Barrett was a law professor at Notre Dame for 15 years before Trump nominated her to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 7th Circuit.)

Who has received a negative COVID test:
Campaigns:

• Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden and wife Jill Biden
• Democratic vice presidential candidate Kamala Harris
• Vice President Mike Pence
• Second lady Karen Pence

Trump family members:

• Barron Trump, President Trump's youngest son
• Ivanka Trump, advisor to the president and eldest daughter
• Jared Kushner, White House senior advisor and son-in-law

Administration:

• Chief of Staff Mark Meadows
• Deputy Chief of Staff Dan Scavino
• Secretary of State Mike Pompeo
• Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin
• Acting Homeland Secretary Chad Wolf
• Defense Secretary Mike Esper
• Army Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
• Attorney General William Barr
• Education Secretary Betsy Devos

Other Washington figures of note:

• Supreme Court nominee Amy Coney Barrett
• House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-California
• Sen. Chris Coons, D-Delaware
• Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio

Following Trump WH COVID-19 outbreak: Dozens of officials, associates and others have tested positive

Just days before Election Day, a new COVID-19 outbreak emerged from the White House in the Vice President's office.

www.usatoday.com

The positive list keep growing, with Bill Stepien, Trump’s campaign manager, one of the recent additions.

The Rose Garden event of Sep 26 seems to now be thought of as being significant in this cluster.
:


Who has tested positive:

• President Donald Trump
• First lady Melania Trump
• Hope Hicks, senior advisor to the president
• Bill Stepien, Trump’s campaign manager
• Republican National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel
• Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah
• Sen. Thom Tillis, R-North Carolina
• Three White House reporters
• One White House staffer
• Kellyanne Conway, former White House senior advisor
• The Rev. John Jenkins, president of Notre Dame University (Jenkins was at the White House Saturday, when Trump introduced Judge Amy Coney Barrett as his Supreme Court nominee. Barrett was a law professor at Notre Dame for 15 years before Trump nominated her to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 7th Circuit.)

Biden tests negative:Democrat Joe Biden tests negative for coronavirus after President Trump reports positive test
The line of succession:What happens if Trump's COVID gets worse? Line of succession and transfer of power explained
COVID-19:Which members of Congress have tested positive for coronavirus?
Who has received a negative COVID test:
Campaigns:

• Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden and wife Jill Biden
• Democratic vice presidential candidate Kamala Harris
• Vice President Mike Pence
• Second lady Karen Pence

Trump family members:

• Barron Trump, President Trump's youngest son
• Ivanka Trump, advisor to the president and eldest daughter
• Jared Kushner, White House senior advisor and son-in-law

Administration:

• Chief of Staff Mark Meadows
• Deputy Chief of Staff Dan Scavino
• Secretary of State Mike Pompeo
• Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin
• Acting Homeland Secretary Chad Wolf
• Defense Secretary Mike Esper
• Army Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
• Attorney General William Barr
• Education Secretary Betsy Devos

Other Washington figures of note:

• Supreme Court nominee Amy Coney Barrett
• House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-California
• Sen. Chris Coons, D-Delaware
• Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio

Contributing: David Jackson, Courtney Subramanian, John Fritze, Tom Vanden Brook, Bart Jansen, Joey Garrison

 

[JessicaTam]

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A number of off topic posts have been removed.
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[tgh]

Having a bit of a browse around leads me to consider that my earlier positive thoughts about HCQ may have been a little fanciful… c'est la vie
Humble pie is perhaps on the menu for desert…..

 

[Pushka]

Having a bit of a browse around leads me to consider that my earlier positive thoughts about HCQ may have been a little fanciful… c'est la vie
Humble pie is perhaps on the menu for desert…..

Check the details. In the first case the trial was ended at 8 weeks as they couldn't get their sample size. It took me 3-4 months to get any benefit from the reduction in auto immune response needed. In the second trial the dosage per week was just either 400 or 800 mcg. My weekly dosage is 2800 mcg which is baseline for treatment. I'm still out on the jury.

 

[tgh]

I'm still out on the jury.
Indeed , and a fair "lay" position to hold.. but.. the hope seems to have faded somewhat as the science matures..... stuff happens….

 

[Pushka]

I'm still out on the jury.
Indeed , and a fair "lay" position to hold.. but.. the hope seems to have faded somewhat as the science matures..... stuff happens….

And politics and money intervenes.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

The positive list keep growing, with Bill Stepien, Trump’s campaign manager, one of the recent additions.

The Rose Garden event of Sep 26 seems to now be thought of as being significant in this cluster.
:


Who has tested positive:

• President Donald Trump
• First lady Melania Trump
• Hope Hicks, senior advisor to the president
• Bill Stepien, Trump’s campaign manager
• Republican National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel
• Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah
• Sen. Thom Tillis, R-North Carolina
• Three White House reporters
• One White House staffer
• Kellyanne Conway, former White House senior advisor
• The Rev. John Jenkins, president of Notre Dame University (Jenkins was at the White House Saturday, when Trump introduced Judge Amy Coney Barrett as his Supreme Court nominee. Barrett was a law professor at Notre Dame for 15 years before Trump nominated her to the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 7th Circuit.)

Biden tests negative:Democrat Joe Biden tests negative for coronavirus after President Trump reports positive test
The line of succession:What happens if Trump's COVID gets worse? Line of succession and transfer of power explained
COVID-19:Which members of Congress have tested positive for coronavirus?
Who has received a negative COVID test:
Campaigns:

• Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden and wife Jill Biden
• Democratic vice presidential candidate Kamala Harris
• Vice President Mike Pence
• Second lady Karen Pence

Trump family members:

• Barron Trump, President Trump's youngest son
• Ivanka Trump, advisor to the president and eldest daughter
• Jared Kushner, White House senior advisor and son-in-law

Administration:

• Chief of Staff Mark Meadows
• Deputy Chief of Staff Dan Scavino
• Secretary of State Mike Pompeo
• Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin
• Acting Homeland Secretary Chad Wolf
• Defense Secretary Mike Esper
• Army Gen. Mark Milley, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff
• Attorney General William Barr
• Education Secretary Betsy Devos

Other Washington figures of note:

• Supreme Court nominee Amy Coney Barrett
• House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-California
• Sen. Chris Coons, D-Delaware
• Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio

Contributing: David Jackson, Courtney Subramanian, John Fritze, Tom Vanden Brook, Bart Jansen, Joey Garrison

Another positive result returned:

• Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wisconsin

 

[DC3]

What happened to the POTUS tangerine glow? Now looking rather pasty in recent photos. Is that COVID-related?

 

[Pushka]

What happened to the POTUS tangerine glow? Now looking rather pasty in recent photos. Is that COVID-related?

We commented on that yesterday. Two theories. He didn't have his makeup person available due to his Covid. Two - he is very unwell and maybe oxygen levels not so great so he's pasty.