General Medical issues thread

Costs vs benefits. And less than the cost of a passport renewal.

(and far less than Tay Tay tickets!:) )
But not a lot of pensioners would be getting passports or Tay Tay tickets. Costs versus benefits doesn’t apply. For them it would be a decision between turning on the heating, buying appropriate food or getting an expensive vaccination.
 
But not a lot of pensioners would be getting passports or Tay Tay tickets. Costs versus benefits doesn’t apply. For them it would be a decision between turning on the heating, buying appropriate food or getting an expensive vaccination.
Or paying for extensive medical treatment if they catch RSV.
This a FF formum after all not all is about social security for most.
 
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Or paying for extensive medical treatment if they catch RSV.
This a FF formum after all not all is about social security for most.
Just can’t agree. You said it is all about priorities. For a large chunk of the population they would love to choose between passports and RSV but life is not that sweet. This is an AFF forum but that doesn’t excuse us from having consideration for those so much less fortunate than us.
 
Just can’t agree. You said it is all about priorities. For a large chunk of the population they would love to choose between passports and RSV but life is not that sweet. This is an AFF forum but that doesn’t excuse us from having consideration for those so much less fortunate than us.
But WR, that’s irrelevant as to one’s personal choice to get vaccinated or not. You can still have concern for others while protecting your own personal health. And in fact, as seen from covid, flu and whooping cough, measles etc, getting vaccinated where possible protects not only you but others around you.
 
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Or are we saying we shouldn't complain about sky high airline prices?.
The two are completely unrelated. Flying is at the top of Maslow hierarchy. First world problem. Basic health care isn’t. And I know I’m preaching to the converted. 😁
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But WR, that’s irrelevant as to one’s personal choice to get vaccinated or not. You can still have concern for others while protecting your own personal health. And in fact, as seen from covid, flu and whooping cough, measles etc, getting vaccinated where possible protects not only you but others around you.
Of course. But to cast some negative connotation on those who simply can’t afford it and not because of poor prioritisation isn’t on either.
 
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Why take time to record on the day and then spend a lot of time dwelling on the information?

I was commenting on @Cossie delayed booking time and saying it seems to be across the board.
Maybe you had some haemodynamic instability and they were checking your pacemaker arrhythmia log for irregularities (your remote monitor would have been at home and unable to communicate with your pacemaker if in hospital). Maybe you had radiotherapy and we like checking if there’s been damage to the pacemaker before/during/after treatment (each practice has a radioonc protocol)? This is important particularly in pacing-dependent patients or if receiving treatment in the region of the pacemaker. Maybe they noticed your device hadn’t been checked in over a year? Again important in a pacing-dependent patient whose battery is getting close to elective replacement indicator status. Maybe you had an MRI and they’re doing a routine check post (unusual reason, a tech would do a proper check with a proper pacemaker programmer while you’re at the radiology dept and not use a remote monitoring unit). Just throwing a few guesses out there.
It would not be for a frivolous reason that they checked. It’s often a pain in the cough to get a company rep or a ward nurse (who may not be familiar with operating the unit) to do the check and doctors can’t charge an item number if they don’t do the check themselves.
 
Maybe you had some haemodynamic instability and they were checking your pacemaker arrhythmia log for irregularities (your remote monitor would have been at home and unable to communicate with your pacemaker if in hospital). Maybe you had radiotherapy and we like checking if there’s been damage to the pacemaker before/during/after treatment (each practice has a radioonc protocol)? This is important particularly in pacing-dependent patients or if receiving treatment in the region of the pacemaker. Maybe they noticed your device hadn’t been checked in over a year? Again important in a pacing-dependent patient whose battery is getting close to elective replacement indicator status. Maybe you had an MRI and they’re doing a routine ch close post (unusual reason, a tech would do a proper check with the programmer while you’re at the radiology dept and not use a remote monitoring unit). Just throwing up a few guesses out there.
It would not be for a frivolous reason. It’s a pain in the cough to get a company rep or a ward nurse (who often don’t know how to use the unit) to do the check and doctors can’t charge an item number if they don’t do the check themselves.
Maybe, I had just had cardiothoracic surgery, or three. Three entry locations as each effort failed then next one. Anyway, I had to instruct them on use of device. haha.
But seriously, when I get a check the reps always take their time reviewing data.
 
Maybe, I had just had cardiothoracic surgery, or three. Three entry locations as each effort failed then next one. Anyway, I had to instruct them on use of device. haha.
But seriously, when I get a check the reps always take their time reviewing data.
Company reps and hospital cardiac techs know their stuff particularly checking pacemakers and troubleshooting. Cardiac ward nurses are au fait with arrhythmias and recognising pacemaker problems but most would not be comfortable doing pacemaker checks and would not reprogram pacemakers without instructions from the doctor.
 
The two are completely unrelated. Flying is at the top of Maslow hierarchy. First world problem. Basic health care isn’t. And I know I’m preaching to the converted. 😁
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Of course. But to cast some negative connotation on those who simply can’t afford it and not because of poor prioritisation isn’t on either.
It’s nothing to do with those who can’t afford it, especially on AFF. That’s their personal choice to have the vax. You can argue for public funding of less important vaccines but you can’t argue against people opting to pay for a vaccine, as many did with shingles vax.
 
It’s nothing to do with those who can’t afford it, especially on AFF. That’s their personal choice to have the vax. You can argue for public funding of less important vaccines but you can’t argue against people opting to pay for a vaccine, as many did with shingles vax.
I'm not saying people who can afford it shouldn't have it. I'm suggesting that if on the pension or health care card it should be free. Like the over 65 flu vax.
 
Having had a Proven RSV infection at the age of 71 I can say it doesn't necessarily cause severe disease in older adults. I had symptoms for 48 hours only and continued to work.
The vaccines are only of recent origin. The only one currently available for older folks in Australia is produced by GSK and was first registered by the EMA in April 2023 and the FDA in May 2023.
A Pfizer vaccine was registered by the TGA in November 2023 but is unavailable.
There is a monoclonal Vaccine also registered in Australia but only for those 0-6 months and late term pregnant women. It is only available in WA,QLD and NSW.

Those aged 0-6 months are the most likely to get severe RSV or die from the disease. They are also more likely to develop asthma later on.
Those over 60 have an increased chance of severe disease and dying but mostly those with chronic lung, heart or kidney disease or immune problems. Currently the recommendation For the vaccine in the over 60s are those with those conditions or indigenous. Over 75s otherwise can get it.
And a lot less adults die of RSV than Influenza in Australia.
" Using Australian national hospitalisation data, 82 (59%) of the 138 deaths in hospital patients with RSV coded as the principal diagnosis from 2006 to 2015 were in adults aged at least 65 years.11"
 
We don’t regret getting the two shingles shots in the US about 6 years ago. I had seen my mother suffer from shingles. We had tried to get the Shingrix shingles shots in Australia but did not succeed back then.
The RSV shots are in our fridge and we will get them injected tomorrow.
Finding out about Mrscove’s cause of kidney stones is high on our list for tomorrow.
 

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