Giftcards and EDR Points

[JohnK]

The wish gift card is just one of a range of woolworths gift cards. Hence why it says gift cards. It should be obvious that you can't earn EDR points for buying a WW gift card and then earn EDR points for spending that card. That would be a loophole. But It is pretty obvious that condition applies to WW gift cards. And so there is no loophole.

Totally disagree about being obvious. What you are saying is not obvious at all.

But it is obvious that the terms and conditions need updating as they are not clear. Not in the slightest.

 

[medhead]

Totally disagree about being obvious. What you are saying is not obvious at all.

But it is obvious that the terms and conditions need updating as they are not clear. Not in the slightest.

It is bloody obvious that if you buy an iTunes or Kathmandu or myer gift card at woolworths that it is a product being sold by woolworths that has no future liability for WW. It is not a WW gift card.

I really don't care if you can't understand the difference involved and why one rightly earns points when purchased and the other doesn't. There is nothing wrong with the conditions.

 

[JohnK]

It is bloody obvious that if you buy an iTunes or Kathmandu or myer gift card at woolworths that it is a product being sold by woolworths that has no future liability for WW. It is not a WW gift card.

There is no differentation in the terms and conditions about which type of "Gift Cards" are excluded from earning Everyday Rewards points. So all "Gift Cards" should be excluded?

I really don't care if you can't understand the difference involved and why one rightly earns points when purchased and the other doesn't. There is nothing wrong with the conditions.

We should not have to make any assumptions about the terms and conditions. The reason for terms and conditions is to make things clear not for us to speculate what is obvious and what is logical.

 

[jlien]

In JohnK's defense, I do find the T&C to be unclear on this topic, hence I started the thread as a means to discuss empirical findings about cards that do and do not earn EDR.

Purchasing a wish card and earning EDR points would allow double or triple dipping, whilst you cannot buy wish cards with other wish cards, you can say, buy a wish card (70 points), then use it to buy a woollies grocery card (70 points) then use it to buy the actual groceries (another 70 points) In this circumstance it's clear that allowing EDR points for GC purchases is a loophole.

Conversely, something like an iTunes gift card, for all intents and purposes is a product, it's stock that woollies can mark up and sell for a profit. Despite being labelled a gift card it's more akin to a mobile phone recharge voucher. In this case, it does make sense to award points because it's a consumable to be used outside of woollies (not unlike bread) I don't have issues with points being awarded for these, if woollies can make money from the sale of these then it should also award points.

This same logic should apply for gift cards for retailers outside of the woollies group, such as Myer, David Jones, Good food & wine, red balloon, accor hotels etc. To me these are also products that I presume woollies sell for a profit.

Then there are gift cards that belong to the woollies group whereby the retailer also awards EDR, such as Big W and BWS. I presume woollies make no (direct) profit from the sale of these cards and in theory shouldn't give points, but the purchases made with them do earn points, i.e. cards sold as a vehicle to earn profit.

The ones that annoy me, however are masters (and I believe dick smiths) where they do not award EDR points at the store, and the GC's themselves do not earn EDR points.

To me ultimately the logic to me comes down to which gift cards are sold for a profit and which are sold as a vehicle for earn profit.

 

[medhead]

It is very very easy. Are you buying something that allows you to buy something from the woolworths group at some time in the future, thus potentially earning points twice for the same spend.

Or are you buying something that you take away and use outside the woolworths group entirely.

This is only difficult if you overthink.

 

[ferni]

My advice is to ignore T&C and test things yourself Many times the T&C are words only, not enforced (this isn't specific to WOW/EDR)....

When faced with incompetence or conspiracy, always assume incompetence

 

[jlien]

Did you actually earn that 470?

I did not think you could with gift card purchases.

Checked today, indeed I did

 

[drross]

Checked today, indeed I did

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excellent news. Thanks alot

 

[gizzard]

There's a good offer in this week's catalogue on page 11 for $10 off your next shop when buying $50 or more of certain gift cards:
Woolworths-Catalogue-Specials

Participating gift cards included Myer, Ticketmaster, iSubscribe, Red Balloon, Hoyts, Good Food, Best Restaurants.


The terms are:
Offer valid from 7th of May to 15th of May 2014 when you spend $50 or more on the participating gift cards in one transaction in store at Woolworths (excluding Tasmania). You must scan your registered Everyday Rewards card at the time of purchase. Limited to one $10 off redemption per Everday Rewards member only. Must be redeemed by the 14th of May. The $10 off voucher will not appear on your receipt - it will be automatically linked to your Everyday Rewards account. Offer not available through Woolworths Online. Voucher not redeemable for cash

 

[JessicaTam]

It is very very easy. Are you buying something that allows you to buy something from the woolworths group at some time in the future, thus potentially earning points twice for the same spend.

Or are you buying something that you take away and use outside the woolworths group entirely.

This is only difficult if you overthink.

I have to disagree medhead. The T&Cs are clear that:

The following are exclusions from the qualifying spend in respect of the different stores:

• Supermarkets and Woolworths Liquor

Smoking/Tobacco products & accessories, Gift Cards, Cash Outs, Home Delivery Charges and Internet Cafes

There is no definition of gift cards. It is only through our own experience that we find that some gift cards are eligible and some are not. You have provided your interpretation of that experience as to which they are.

 

[jlien]

There's a good offer in this week's catalogue on page 11 for $10 off your next shop when buying $50 or more of certain gift cards:
Woolworths-Catalogue-Specials

Participating gift cards included Myer, Ticketmaster, iSubscribe, Red Balloon, Hoyts, Good Food, Best Restaurants.


The terms are:
Offer valid from 7th of May to 15th of May 2014 when you spend $50 or more on the participating gift cards in one transaction in store at Woolworths (excluding Tasmania). You must scan your registered Everyday Rewards card at the time of purchase. Limited to one $10 off redemption per Everday Rewards member only. Must be redeemed by the 14th of May. The $10 off voucher will not appear on your receipt - it will be automatically linked to your Everyday Rewards account. Offer not available through Woolworths Online. Voucher not redeemable for cash

Hey, that's not shabby. Though I don't really need anymore myer gift cards. BUt I will keep it in mind when I do this week's shop.

 

[drross]

Hey, that's not shabby. Though I don't really need anymore myer gift cards. BUt I will keep it in mind when I do this week's shop.

The only downside is using the $10 before 14th may

 

[jlien]

Ah, that would get in the way of things. Unless I use it during the same shop? That is leave something worth $10 unscanned.

Though I don't know how long it takes for the voucher to credit to my account.

 

[drross]

Ah, that would get in the way of things. Unless I use it during the same shop? That is leave something worth $10 unscanned.

Though I don't know how long it takes for the voucher to credit to my account.

interesting strategy. Have absolutely no idea if it would work or how long it takes to credit.

 

[JohnK]

there is no definition of gift cards. It is only through our own experience that we find that some gift cards are eligible and some are not. You have provided your interpretation of that experience as to which they are.

LOL. Good point. I wish I had thought of that.

 

[markis10]

interesting strategy. Have absolutely no idea if it would work or how long it takes to credit.

Seemed to credit straight away.

 

[gizzard]

Also, the $10 discount worked in BWS too. So you don't have to do a second shop in Woolies if you plan on a BWS shop. I expect it would be the same for Big-W but don't know for sure.

 

[whatmeworry]

7.5% Off BIG W eGift Cards - $100 or $200 Value. Back-To-School Special

Back-To-School BIG W eGift Card

 

[burmans]

7.5% Off BIG W eGift Cards - $100 or $200 Value. Back-To-School Special

Back-To-School BIG W eGift Card

ANd remember these are really just branded gift cards but can be used in any WW (or WW owned) store!

 

[Duffa]

RACV Wish card still 5% off and free shipping but no longer accept Amex.
Citi infinite then