Grammar Discussions

[sjk]

It should be “My daughter and I...”

LOL. That’s not *grammar*, sorry.

 

[get me outta here]

Me, myself and I are all pronouns which are used differently in a sentence constructed grammatically. That is grammar.

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LOL. That’s not *grammar*, sorry.

 

[Deleted member]

LOL. That’s not *grammar*, sorry.

Yes it is

 

[sjk]

Me, myself and I are all pronouns which are used differently in a sentence constructed grammatically. That is grammar.

That’s also irrelevant here.

“I and my” is grammatically correct, it’s just considered wrong by convention.

 

[get me outta here]

It does seem to be irrelevant to a lot of people. However, something I borrowed from the intowebz explains it thus :
“Me, myself, and I. You may be tempted to use these words interchangeably, because they all refer to the same thing. But in fact, each one has a specific role in a sentence: ‘I’ is a subject pronoun, ‘me’ is an object pronoun, and ‘myself’ is a reflexive or intensive pronoun”.

There is a TEDx talk on this very thing. Go for it.

 

[cove]

I am so glad the “English Police” are still hard at work in this thread. My favourite saying is “it’s quite out there” from sales reports.
I think our teachers of English must have given up about 30 years ago.

 

[sjk]

‘I’ is a subject pronoun

Which is precisely what makes “I and my daughter” grammatically correct.

 

[get me outta here]

Is that after the claim comes in for stationary?

I am so glad the “English Police” are still hard at work in this thread. My favourite saying is “it’s quite out there” from sales reports.
I think our teachers of English must have given up about 30 years ago.

 

[Hvr]

Is that after the claim comes in for stationary?

The claim for stationery is stationary.

 

[Hvr]

An interesting article about a lunch with:

Mary Norris is known as the Comma Queen, having worked as a copy editor at the long-running and influential The New Yorker magazine for more than 30 years.

When it comes to the kind of labels slapped on Norris herself, she’s heard them all – nitpicker, pedant, stickler and, of course, ‘grammar naz_’. Her least favourite. “‘Stickler’ I can handle. There is some honour in being a stickler,” she says, “but not much in being a naz_.”

And a wonderful response from a letter writer:

Kylie Northover writes: "Errant or absent apostrophes on restaurant menus and specialty boards are universal grammar crimes".

No, they are punctuation crimes, not grammar crimes. Punctuation refers to symbols like commas, question marks, etc; grammar to the way words are used to construct phrases, clauses or sentences.

 

[get me outta here]

 

[p--and--t]

Usually spelt "gonna", but anyway.....

"Ain't" was getting popular-ish, particularly in mistaken double-negatives, e.g. "I ain't goin' to no rally tomorrow" (intending, 'I am not going to a (or the) rally tomorrow').

No no no

I'm gunna (I am going to)
I'm a gonna (I am dead/finished)

 

[JennyMG]

Then again I think we would all enjoy life a little more if we had more folks such as the Reverend William Archibald Spooner who as a Dean at Oxford toasted Queen Victoria with-Three cheers for our queer old dean.

Yes. Let us all peel and neigh for all the dongs we have rung.

 

[JennyMG]

Re: The totally off-topic thread



Agreed. That is another reason I suggested use only of, 'should have', without its contraction.

It’s easy.
“I have”/ “I should have”
But not
“I of” /“I should of”

 

[JennyMG]

Also your and you’re
Ladies, lady’s, and ladys’ and the like.
Really not that hard but a sticking point for so many.

 

[Hvr]

Ladies, lady’s, and ladys’ and the like.

It's harder in Scotland where they have to learn the difference between laddie and ladies.

 

[p--and--t]

Example of pet hate

...I wish them kids would keep quite....

 

[JennyMG]

Example of pet hate

...I wish them kids would keep quite....

Yeah youse, keep quite!

 

[Hvr]

Yeah youse, keep quite!

Your loosing the battle.

 

[Julesmac]

Also your and you’re
Ladies, lady’s, and ladys’ and the like.
Really not that hard but a sticking point for so many.

That's because people don't understand how to make a singular word plural when the word ends in y. I'm sure there was a rhyme we learnt but it's way too long ago to remember. Since children don't learn grammar any more we're stuck with it. Ahh yes, the famous errant apostrophe, gets flung around indiscriminately, If I was really serious I'd carry around a texta !

I saw a terrific sign yesterday for a coaching service - 'Ed-u-Kate-Me'. That's encouraging