Greetings / CBR QP Overcrowding

[straitman]

Yes WP get access to those other lounges via the OW status. Good on 'em. Hopefully the crowd will move to the new lounges with the SG and WP.

medhead,

The SG's won't be going to the new lounges unless they are flying 'J' :!:

 

[JohnK]

I would agree with the comments that Qantas would not be making a great deal of profit from paid Qantas Lounge membership. With the recent removal of lifetime Qantas Lounge membership and also Senior Qantas Lounge membership and the introduction of the new Business class domestic lounges I would not be too surprised if sometime in the near future there will be no such thing as paid Qantas Lounge membership.

As with most airlines only passengers with top tier status and paid premium cabins will have access to Lounges.

If you want lounge access then there is always the Priority Pass paid membership at most major airports.

 

[rwatts]

I would agree with the comments that Qantas would not be making a great deal of profit from paid Qantas Lounge membership.

Surely it dosnt have to make a profit directly at all ? If it keeps thousands of travellers loyal to Qantas its doing its job.

Despite BFOD policies, most public servants have somehow found a way to justify flying QF so they can use their QP membership. I'm one - last year was the first time I've reached gold and this year is not a certainty.

With the overcrowding of the CBR QP and the ADL<>CBR flights these days however, DJ is looking very inviting especially with the department using Corporate Plus fares hence getting access to The Lounge. [The flight times are more inviting also - the direct evening QF flights have been getting later over the years, now arriving after 2100. With DJ I could be there before 1900.]

Richard.

 

[straitman]

Surely it dosnt have to make a profit directly at all ? If it keeps thousands of travellers loyal to Qantas its doing its job.

Despite BFOD policies, most public servants have somehow found a way to justify flying QF so they can use their QP membership. I'm one - last year was the first time I've reached gold and this year is not a certainty.

With the overcrowding of the CBR QP and the ADL<>CBR flights these days however, DJ is looking very inviting especially with the department using Corporate Plus fares hence getting access to The Lounge. [The flight times are more inviting also - the direct evening QF flights have been getting later over the years, now arriving after 2100. With DJ I could be there before 1900.]

Richard.

rwatts,

You'll just have to try for status on both QF & DJ.

 

[simongr]

Can I just ask, you carry on as to why do WP's and SG's look down on paid QP members (remember... that is how I started using QP's) when you yourself in previous posts look down on WP's and claim that paid members are the bees knees?

Just a little bit of hipocrasy if not maybe a little bit of jealousy me thinks.

I made the same point earlier but it was ignored in favour of reiterating the same points that WP and SG get their memberships for free...

Re the fam next to me comment - that was just a nod to the forummers that "know" me and how I dont have kids and minimise my interaction with non-family kids. In fact Hartley was little star - he was eating his greens and demanding fruit rather than chips and sugar. He could have done with a haircut but I guess that is a parent's decision...

 

[straitman]

I think the fact that they are building a specific new lounge for WP/J and NO PAID MEMBERS says enough that QF are making their money from bums in seats rather than PAID MEMBERSHIPS.

Qantas already - through the status quo of QP's + the J & F lounges - is in sync with OW reqiurements.

They arent building the new lounges because of OW - it is to hang onto the business market that Virgin Blue is slowly eating away at.

Can I just ask, you carry on as to why do WP's and SG's look down on paid QP members (remember... that is how I started using QP's) when you yourself in previous posts look down on WP's and claim that paid members are the bees knees?

Just a little bit of hipocrasy if not maybe a little bit of jealousy me thinks.

I made the same point earlier but it was ignored in favour of reiterating the same points that WP and SG get their memberships for free...

I still stick with my question of post #30. There seems to be a lot of wind up or jealousy or at the very least a lot of rhetorical and confused argument occurring :!:

 

[thadocta]

I seem to recall from various Annual Reports that I received as a shareholder (too many to wade through all of the QF-praising bumpf) that QF regard the Qantas Club as a "profit-centre" rather than a "cost-centre". I also seem to recall something, again, somewhere in the Annual reports, that the Qantas Club *makes* them money, rather than *costs* them money.

I am guessing that the incremental cost of providing these services (given that the amount of p1$$ they buy per year makes it d1rt che@p) is more than outweighed by the fact that a lot of people would choose QF over DJ, in order to get these benefits.

So basically, $10 worth of alcohol in order to get a $200 airfare.

Now for the economics students out there, I will leave it up to you to do the maths, particularly as to how much of that $200 airfare becomes profit, how much if that profit is eaten away by the $10 worth of alcohol is consumed, but please factor into that the other stuff, namely that QF has a huge share of the domestic market (which may have a bearing on incoming tourists, who may not know any better, and decide to go with the biggest carrier).

All too convoluted for this time of the morning, but it is stuff worth thinking about.

Dave

 

[serfty]

Qantas make quite a profit out of QP membership.

I knew a guy from the ADL QP who some years ago indicated as such.

Basically, as he related it to me, the majority of paid members are corporates/wealthy out there who fly four or five times a year who have QP membership as part of their "salary package"/"community Status".

The membership is seen as a status symbol - or a "Must have", whether it's used or not.

If someone flys enough for complimentary access; then generally Qantas have already made a Quid out of them.