Has anyone here *never* been in Business or First?

[NM]

How would you have gone asking for the NEW J amenity kit, ear plugs, eye mask and PJ's - probably wouldn't have got PJ's as it was a Brisbane flight, not Sydney.

Actually, I was also handed an "amenities" pack. I have not opened it, but assume from the feel of it that it only included eye mask and socks. Def no PJs for a BNE flight :evil:.

 

[acampbel]

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After reading 7 pages of posts I have come to the conclusion that the answer is ... No. [But there are plenty of people willing to tell you they have.]

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[Reggie]

Actually, I was also handed an "amenities" pack. I have not opened it, but assume from the feel of it that it only included eye mask and socks. Def no PJs for a BNE flight :evil:.

Amenity kit on a domestic flight, is that normal?

 

[NM]

Amenity kit on a domestic flight, is that normal?

I believe so for trans-continental red-eye in J.

I contains socks, eye mask, toothbrush and lanyard.

 

[Reggie]

I keep learning stuff here all the time. I hope to never find out in person though. I avoid those red eye's out of Perth big time.

 

[~B~]

It wasnt 777 , was either 757 or 767, i assume 767 because it was really wide....

I guess i cant say anyway since i havent been on a AA economy...i didnt relaly know what to look for, and i am legally blind lol

it really depends on the circumstances of the flight. LAX-MIA has been operated by several different aircraft types over the last few years, including 2-class 767-300, 2-class 757 and 3-class 777 aircraft.

If you had a 3-class 777, then it was operated as a 2-class service so the business class seats are given to some economy class passengers. The service is still economy class, just a better seat.

If you had a 757, then the first class seating is similar to a Qantas 737-800 business class. There is no business class on these aircraft. You would have received two feeds between LAX and MIA, being a full meal and a snack.

If you had a 767-300, then you would have had a seat similar to the 777 business class (i.e. lots of leg room and recline action) and the same meal service as the 757.

If you didn't find much difference between economy and they way you travelled, then I expect you were seated in the business class section of a 777 and received economy food and service. If that is the case, then its not really an upgrade or a business class experience, but it a very pleasant way to experience a long economy flight.

 

[Flashback]

I believe so for trans-continental red-eye in J.

I contains socks, eye mask, toothbrush and lanyard.

I used to get those doing Y PER-MEL/SYD, so yep.

 

[NM]

It wasnt 777 , was either 757 or 767, i assume 767 because it was really wide....

Easy to tell the difference between AA 767 and AA 757. In First Class the 757 has 2x2 seating at about 40" pitch, while the 767 has 2x2x2 seating (i.e. two aisles) and about 60" pitch. In the 767 you really struggle to reach the seat in font. By way of comparison, the QF Dreamtimes are at 50" pitch.

 

[oz_mark]

I used to get those doing Y PER-MEL/SYD, so yep.

The PER Trans-con red eyes list Night Flight Amenities for Y. Got them on a red eye not so long ago

 

[Lonely Flyer]

Never flown J or F but next year will be doing this trip:

BNE-SYD QF Y PAID
SYD-LHR Y+ either BA or VS PAID
LHR-JFK BA F AWARD
LGA-STL AA F AWARD
STL-LAS AA Y PAID (run out of points)
LAX-BNE QF J AWARD

 

[Reggie]

Never flown J or F but next year will be doing this trip:

BNE-SYD QF Y PAID
SYD-LHR Y+ either BA or VS PAID
LHR-JFK BA F AWARD
LGA-STL AA F AWARD
STL-LAS AA Y PAID (run out of points)
LAX-BNE QF J AWARD

Congratulations Lonely Flyer,

You will love the quality and service on BA F. Choose your seating carefully as they use ying yang seating, the window and centre seats face backwards, some pax do not like the sensation of flying backwards.

Do not expect your F flight on AA to be anywhere near your BA experience. The J flight from LAX to BNE will be very nice, try to get a seat in the upper deck. Your fligh will leave the TBIT, so lounge is probably not going to be as good as Terminal 4.

Your main problem will be after flying F and J, is not wanting to fly WHY again. Enjoy the experience.

 

[NM]

You will love the quality and service on BA F. Choose your seating carefully as they use ying yang seating, the window and centre seats face backwards, some pax do not like the sensation of flying backwards.

You have just described the seats on BA's Club World (business class). BA First Class are more a herringbone arrangement for the window seats, all facing forwards and towards the window. The centre block are forward facing pairs.

 

[Reggie]

You have just described the seats on BA's Club World (business class). BA First Class are more a herringbone arrangement for the window seats, all facing forwards and towards the window. The centre block are forward facing pairs.

Mmmm you are 100% correct, should have had that coffee between crawling out of bed and answering someones question.

Good thing about BA F is that there is one less row of centre seats than QF, and the herringbone arrangement (with an additional row) gives it a lot more private secluded feeling.

 

[JohnK]

some pax do not like the sensation of flying backwards.

Some people do not like facing backwards in a car or train so why endure 9+ hours facing backwards on an aircraft. Not one of the best designs in my opinion.

 

[Reggie]

Some people do not like facing backwards in a car or train so why endure 9+ hours facing backwards on an aircraft. Not one of the best designs in my opinion.

I flew LHR-JFC last year, and forgot about the ying-yang seating and my window profile resulted in me sitting backwards. It was weird for take off and landing, but other than that I didn't notice anything different, but I dont normally suffer travel sickness.

 

[trooper]

I personally wouldn't mind it..... I flew with Southwest back when they had the one set of reversed seats each side... and happily sat there and chatted to the folks in the "opposing" row...

Surely it is only noticeable when under acceleration? In "stable cruise" for want of a better term.. what difference could it make.. other than pyschologically I suppose....

Many military transport aircraft have ALL seats rear facing... well.. not quite ALL.. the PILOTS face front!!

I spent 14 years in the Navy.. and never got sick at sea.. so I suppose motion sickness is NOT a factor for me....(Thank God... it looks like a horrible affliction!)

 

[Keith009]

Isn't it meant to be safer facing backwards?

 

[codash1099]

I can recall flying "way back when" in a BEA Trident that had ALL of its seats facing backward. I never found out the reason, but I presume it was thought to be a safety enhancement.

 

[trooper]

In theory I believe it is meant to be... not hard to see why... significantly better "brace" position available!

One COULD argue of course that commercial airlines do not operate as far into the edges of the envelope than military aviation! (The only truly scary approach/landing I've ever experienced was in a C130.....YMMV!) Thus it would be far less likely to ever be "tested".... Logical??? I dunno... I suspect that consumer resistance would be high for the reasons given earlier in this thread...

 

[Dave Noble]

I flew LHR-JFC last year, and forgot about the ying-yang seating and my window profile resulted in me sitting backwards. It was weird for take off and landing, but other than that I didn't notice anything different, but I dont normally suffer travel sickness.

I agree; other than during takeoff and landing I cannot notice any difference between a forward and rear facing seat; so similar that the situation I have had is disorientation in forgetting that the seat was facing backwards when getting up to walk around and almost heading the wrong direction

Dave