Have you had to change/cancel travel due to COVID-19 (involuntarily or voluntarily)?

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I thought I would start a thread as a resource for AFFers who have changed or cancelled travel plans directly or indirectly due to 2019 n-CoV.
  • Did the airline/cruise company cancelling or change your flight/cruise? Or, did you proactively or reactively cancel or change it on your own (and why?).
  • Did they notify you directly, or did you discover it on your own?
  • What was your original plan, and what was the revised plan?
  • What was your experience like?
  • Did you go through any travel insurance claim process, and how was that part of it?

For the record, part of my role at work is to monitor medical related issues, filter out mis/disinformation, and brief other staff using only verified facts from trusted sources, so I am not one to buy into sensationalism or hysteria. BUT, I am also an advocate of forward planning and monitoring situations that could affect travel plans.
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To start it off…. We have begun voluntarily changing (or making back up plans for) our upcoming holiday SYD-(+/- SIN)-LAX-SJO-LAX-HNL-LNY-HNL-SYD

We are booked to the USA via SIN on SQ in a few weeks (F Saver Reward Booking). A few things caused us to start making contingency plans on getting to the USA including:
  • Reading posts from Buttermilk Chicken regarding her RTW flight being disrupted between HKK and CEB
  • Member Pushka raising a good point if Singapore will be next.
  • Monitoring the World Health Organisations surveillance on n-CoV (as part of my responsibilities at work). Singapore confirmed infections were 28 on 5 Feb, 40 on 8 Feb, and 43 on 9 Feb. Several of these cases were human-to-human contact, with no recent travel to China.
  • Bloomberg’s article this morning HERE, which discussed the spread of the virus from a conference attendee in Singapore, via a resort in France, to people in France, Spain, and the UK.

We contacted SQ, to discuss the options of alternative carriers, to which there were no available flights. The agent was very friendly, and said she understood the desire to rebook and avoid an Asia transit, but she said until official bans are in place, there were no options, but “we will offer options if Singapore becomes affected by travel bans”.

We began searching other options. We contacted VFF, who found one seat on DL SYD-LAX in W, and one seat on VA in J SYD-BNE-LAX. No other business or premium reward seats (except any seat) were available +/- 1 day of our desired travel (with pre-booked hotels, cars, and other flights to South America, and Hawaii). We will keep looking for another J seat on same day, and hopefully two on the same flight to free up closer to the date.

We have left our SQ bookings as is for now, and will cancel either that booking of the DL/VA booking closer to the date as thing develop.

Overall Experience:
  • Wait times on the phone are obviously a bit longer, but I’ve not been on hold longer than 15 minutes with either VA or SQ.
  • Staff at both SQ and VA call centres have been friendly, empathetic, and helpful in searching, but have no/limited availability and flexibility in voluntary changes so far.
 
..... Just taking a snapshot from the BNO case listing, there are now more active cases in Schengen Europe (17,041) than in China (16.145). And of course in Europe there has been exponential growth in cases (as with the Middle East) while there has been a steady decline in China.
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Cheers skip

PineappleSkip, I agree with your post, but I do have to make comment on the China figures. Since 1st march the Chinese figures "show" essentially a complete halt in new cases, a complete halt in deaths, yet a beautifully growing number of "recovered". It seems that not only they have performed a miracle in containment since 1st March, but miraculously, they have managed to reduce the mortality rate to almost zero for the past ten days straight, despite having 50,000 active cases! If only they could share their cure with the rest of the world....
 
It's not that UK forms have been late, they've had international travel plans in place but now it's been expanded to domestic as well.
 
WHO have just declared Covid as a pandemic (1635 GMT, I have no idea what day of the week it is)
 
PineappleSkip, I agree with your post, but I do have to make comment on the China figures. Since 1st march the Chinese figures "show" essentially a complete halt in new cases, a complete halt in deaths, yet a beautifully growing number of "recovered". It seems that not only they have performed a miracle in containment since 1st March, but miraculously, they have managed to reduce the mortality rate to almost zero for the past ten days straight, despite having 50,000 active cases! If only they could share their cure with the rest of the world....

From what I could tell from the link in the quote , which in turn linked to a Chinese source - still getting 22 deaths yesterday and the day before. In terms of the overall time this thing has been going , that’s about 1/3-1/2 the average daily rate of death. Not completely out of kilter with what would be expected.
 
We are booked to US in three weeks and current travel insurance won’t cover us. We won’t risk USA medical costs.

To my non-lawyer eyes, the ANZ platinum/black Credit card travel insurance doesn’t seem to exclude cover and was updated 1 March. Anyone else noticed this?
That was my non lawyer take on this policy also
 
I’m not sure about the activation dates with Travellinsuranz, but they don’t cover preexisting conditions that aren’t already listed. Unfortunately, this doesn’t works for one of us.
Do you mean the CC ANZ cover? They will cover many non listed conditions through an assessment plus $75. Been using it for many years, no claims though thankfully.
 
China has claimed about 26,400 recoveries and just under 400 deaths from 1 March on, indicating a death rate among those cases resolved this month of about 1.5%. That isn't far below other estimates and I wouldn't describe 1 in 67 dying as a miracle :oops:. Not an apologist but methinks the numbers are plausible and all epidemics eventually come to an end.

Cheers skip
 
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So our upcoming trip has been curtailed, but we will continue with the important part. The Cruise Line has agreed to move us to November 2021 - far enough away to feel this pandemic will have been resolved. We just have to be fit enough to participate at that time.

The other part of our trip has become the whole focus - going to UK to spend time with daughter & granddaughter over Easter holiday break. With the UK-AUS medical agreement we can be assured of treatment if needed, and as we only get to be with the family every 6-9 months, we have decided to go ahead. So as long as the UK do not close borders to Australia in the next 7 days we will go ahead and spend time in UK.
 
I was planning to travel OOL-SYD tomorrw (unfortunately for a funeral) but I have developed a cold. Rather than panic my fellow passengers with my cough and sniffles I have cancelled the flights
I am also probably still infectious so I think it's the right thing to do

The last thing needed is to create stress and worry among passengers
 
I see our cruise that was supposed to depart from Rome and return has now booked a berth for embarkation in Athens and disembark in Athens, as well as visit Athens part way through as a port. Malta has refused entry, and other Italian ports will not be accessible. Do cruise lines actually think we will put up with such significant changes? Awful itinerary now. And guess what, its only other cruisers who have done their port research that found this out - the Cruise insists nothing has changed!
 
I see our cruise that was supposed to depart from Rome and return has now booked a berth for embarkation in Athens and disembark in Athens, as well as visit Athens part way through as a port. Malta has refused entry, and other Italian ports will not be accessible. Do cruise lines actually think we will put up with such significant changes? Awful itinerary now. And guess what, its only other cruisers who have done their port research that found this out - the Cruise insists nothing has changed!
As Italy is a no-go area, what else can the cruise lines do? Like airlines, they are also having to work hard to find new embarkation ports for multiple ships over several cruise companies. Civitavecchia can host four or more ships a day. With so many ports off limits for the usual daily sightseeing, they must be struggling to reroute. Disappointing for you and fellow cruisers, but understandable.

Nevertheless I agree the cruise lines should be informing you of the changes necessitated by port closures.
 
As Italy is a no-go area, what else can the cruise lines do? Like airlines, they are also having to work hard to find new embarkation ports for multiple ships over several cruise companies. Civitavecchia can host four or more ships a day. With so many ports off limits for the usual daily sightseeing, they must be struggling to reroute. Disappointing for you and fellow cruisers, but understandable.

Nevertheless I agree the cruise lines should be informing you of the changes necessitated by port closures.
Oh yes, they have no choice, they should cancel rather than substitute a pretty ordinary cruise and just think we will accept it. That is what some cruise lines are starting to do now anyway. Cruising is in for an horrendous period.
 
I'm booked ADL-BNE-LAX on friday 20th and LAX-MEL-ADL on the 27th.
At this stage, as a fit 62 year old male with no health issues, I am still going.
However my wife quietly asked me this morning "Are you still going to the states next week?"
Now I'm worried!!!!!!!
 
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I'm booked ADL-BNE-LAX on friday 20th and LAX-MEL-ADL on the 27th.
At this stage, as a fit 62 year old male with no health issues, I am still going.
However my wife quietly asked me this morning "Are you still going to the states next week?"
Now I'm worried!!!!!!!
I think Donald Trump just answered that question!
 
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