Hokkaido

standard class is more than acceptable.
is it what you tell your +1? 😊😱
Also, the app doesn't work overnight in Japan. Some kind of daily maintenance
Not my issue, unfortunately as last time with the NAB card it was during the day. No Amex for me - I forgot to get one before I retired; very bad rookie mistake.
 
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is it what you tell your +1? 😊😱
For all of our previous trips to Japan when using a JR pass we have always travelled in the standard class. It was only our most recent trip that on their final Shinkansen journey did I introduce them to Green Class. I may regret this in the coming years ;)
 
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For all of our previous trips to Japan when using a JR pass we have always travelled in the standard class. It was only our most recent trip that on their final Shinkansen journey did I introduce them to Green Class. I may regret this in the coming years ;)


No it gets worse.............

 
No it gets worse.............

I snuck back to Gran Class before one of the trains left and snapped few photos and I just didn't bother to show them the photos until later. Also on the trains we were on there was no meal or drinks service in Gran Class, if there was things may have been different. IMG_4181.jpegIMG_4618.jpegIMG_4619.jpegIMG_4620.jpeg
 
is it what you tell your +1? 😊😱

Not my issue, unfortunately as last time with the NAB card it was during the day. No Amex for me - I forgot to get one before I retired; very bad rookie mistake.
Ok. Then it's the Visa issue. Known problem on all the Japan Travel FB pages. Just buy when you get there. It should be fine.
 
. Also rejected. Twice. I'm getting a complex.
Sorry you’re getting a complex! But don’t take it personally - it’s a very commonly reported problem.

I reckon you should be right to buy the ticket on the day. The trains are VERY frequent, maybe every 30 mins or so, so if one is booked out, the next one is not too long a wait - and there is that fantastic food court to visit along with a department store so the time will pass pleasantly.

Our last 2 trips we took Green class JR passes because we had some long train legs to cover. The 5 before we took standard class. Honestly there is little real difference. Green class has a bit more space and is maybe less crowded, but it’s pretty minimal. For a short ride like Nagoya-Osaka, standard class would be totally fine if you want to save a few $$.
 
We travel a lot on shinkansens and usually go standard class. The journeys are usually longer than Nagoya to Osaka route. According to Japan around 4-5pm the shinkansens leave Nagoya for Shin Osaka every 2 to 15 minutes Shouldn't be a problem at all getting a ticket.
Once we went Green Class Tokyo to Kyoto and the carriage was never full -in December last year.
 
Thanks all. Thinking about going Green (which is unusual for me ;) ) as I'll have just have come off a short overnight flight rom SIN, probably little sleep. Will see how I go when I get there. Only other shinkansen will be from Shin-Osaka to Himeji (trying for the third time) and return.
 
Generally speaking the biggest difference between standard and green iirc is going from a 2-3 configuration to 2-2. The chairs are a tad "nicer" but i honestly can't tell the difference.

As for rejecting foreign cards, its quite common situation. When I asked around years ago with merchants, it's to do with anti-chargeback protection (I don't think Japanese previously used CC anywhere near as much and you can't chargeback debit cards).
 
Generally speaking the biggest difference between standard and green iirc is going from a 2-3 configuration to 2-2. The chairs are a tad "nicer" but i honestly can't tell the difference.

As for rejecting foreign cards, its quite common situation. When I asked around years ago with merchants, it's to do with anti-chargeback protection (I don't think Japanese previously used CC anywhere near as much and you can't chargeback debit cards).
You most definitely can chargeback on a debit card.
 
Main reason for wanting to use it was to reserve a Green car seat in advance for Nagoya ---> Osaka, having travelled in from the airport mid morning. I guess I'll just go to the ticket office and take my chances, .

Between these two there are Shinkansen every 10 mins or so...I'm not sure what chances you are taking tbh 🤣
 
as I'll have just have come off a short overnight flight rom SIN, probably little sleep.
Honestly I don't think it will make any difference whether you are Green or standard for this aspect. Both classes have seats that recline - slightly, but neither has enough recline to give you a good sleep. Plus there will be frequent announcements of upcoming stations, advice and warnings about where to put/not put your luggage etc etc that will interrupt your chances for a nap.

Totally up to you of course.
 

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