How many drinks is too many drinks?

[Canny man]

If it's toilet breaks that people are concerned with shouldn't the 'puritans' be equally admonitary of these who chug a couple of coffees before boarding, and then glug from a large bottle of water?

 

[whatmeworry]

What sometimes happens when a passenger gets too "happy"!

Drunk granny forces Qantas pilot to turn back

 

[Ewing]

Sometimes I wonder about this board. 7 pages on whether 3 cans of Fosters was acceptable on a flight from Melbourne to Adelaide. give me a break!

Well, zero cans of Fosters is the limit to what's acceptable to me

I still can't believe this thread is nine pages now. I wonder how many pages it'd get to if I mentioned the three glasses of Red Claw Pinot Gris I enjoyed on the 26 minute SYD-CBR flight last Friday, or the three glasses of wine I had in the J lounge before the flight. The CSM obviously thought it was acceptable as he was the one topping up my glass without me asking.

Personally I think how much a passenger is drinking is of no business to others as long as that passenger is not a disruption to others. As mentioned in the thread the crew are RSA trained so it's up to them to determine when a passenger has had enough.

 

[Shelf]

^ I appreciate prompt service

 

[significance]

Seen in a British airport:

 

[Stephen65]

I still can't believe this thread is nine pages now. I wonder how many pages it'd get to if I mentioned the three glasses of Red Claw Pinot Gris I enjoyed on the 26 minute SYD-CBR flight last Friday, or the three glasses of wine I had in the J lounge before the flight. The CSM obviously thought it was acceptable as he was the one topping up my glass without me asking.

Some of those FA's are demons when it comes to refilling your wine glass. I'll confess to drinking four plus glasses of wine on a SYD-MEL hop at the end of a long day when I am not driving from the airport.

 

[significance]

Some of those FA's are demons when it comes to refilling your wine glass. I'll confess to drinking four plus glasses of wine on a SYD-MEL hop at the end of a long day when I am not driving from the airport.

It's interesting how much it varies. I've had everything from refill offers every few minutes to one recent 12-hour flight where I got a disapproving look from the business FA for asking for a second glass of wine an hour after my first.

 

[twhetherington]

Well, zero cans of Fosters is the limit to what's acceptable to me

Personally I think how much a passenger is drinking is of no business to others as long as that passenger is not a disruption to others. As mentioned in the thread the crew are RSA trained so it's up to them to determine when a passenger has had enough.

Completely true

 

[Princess Fiona]

It's interesting how much it varies. I've had everything from refill offers every few minutes to one recent 12-hour flight where I got a disapproving look from the business FA for asking for a second glass of wine an hour after my first.

:shock: :shock: Which Airline was this as they'll be joining my no-fly list

 

[Pushka]

If it's toilet breaks that people are concerned with shouldn't the 'puritans' be equally admonitary of these who chug a couple of coffees before boarding, and then glug from a large bottle of water?

Interesting that you use the word "puritan". How is asking whether three cans of beer on a 55 minute trip is appropriate, in any way reflective of a puritan attitude.

Are you really trying to compare drinking water with alcohol? Everyone needs to drink water, alcohol is entirely choice. Last I knew, coffee doesn't make you drunk. The toilet break issue was just a part of the situation.

For those who say it is Ok as long as people aren't inconvenienced, I agree. However, we were inconvenienced and I was concerned half way through that this guy had drunk enough to hurl over the seat, and me. Let alone the need for two toilet breaks. To be honest I just think the staff gave him the drinks because they didn't want any trouble, from him. But they didn't have to sit next to him. Or smell his beery breathe and fumes. So while it may be up to them, they didn't give a rats about others around him.

 

[bossreggie]

I'm heading to LHR this afternoon/evening with EK.....

I'm going to see if I can keep to 3 VB's!!

Oh Dear...........

Boss







ummmmmm













Forget it!!

I will see if I can keep to 3 bottles of Champagne!!

Winning!!

 

[Oneworldplus2]

Each to his own as long as it doesn't inconvenience anyone.

I agree.
Everyone has a different tolerance when it comes to alcohol.
I've seen some people get smashed of 2 beers and others drink ~15 and look normal.

 

[mannej]

Interesting that you use the word "puritan". How is asking whether three cans of beer on a 55 minute trip is appropriate, in any way reflective of a puritan attitude.

Are you really trying to compare drinking water with alcohol? Everyone needs to drink water, alcohol is entirely choice. Last I knew, coffee doesn't make you drunk. The toilet break issue was just a part of the situation.

For those who say it is Ok as long as people aren't inconvenienced, I agree. However, we were inconvenienced and I was concerned half way through that this guy had drunk enough to hurl over the seat, and me. Let alone the need for two toilet breaks. To be honest I just think the staff gave him the drinks because they didn't want any trouble, from him. But they didn't have to sit next to him. Or smell his beery breathe and fumes. So while it may be up to them, they didn't give a rats about others around him.

You did make mention of annoyance of the toilet situation.

Both water and in particular Coffee can increase the amount of times someone has to use the facilities, so can be compared to beer in this sense. You can go without water for 55 minutes last time I checked. You were only inconvenienced due to your assumptions about his alcohol consumption.

The other thing to note is that there are those who are nervous flyers, and this sets off their stomachs for whatever reasons. Chances are that these people would probably end up sitting in a window seat from time to time, even though they ask for an aisle seat. It happens.

I honestly think that part of your displeasure has come from your assumptions at your seat neighbour. Apart from using the toilet twice, I fail to see any other evidence of him being a problem at all.

 

[markis10]

You did make mention of annoyance of the toilet situation.

Both water and in particular Coffee can increase the amount of times someone has to use the facilities, so can be compared to beer in this sense. You can go without water for 55 minutes last time I checked. You were only inconvenienced due to your assumptions about his alcohol consumption.
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Not really comparable, after all while coffee is a diuretic, water obviously is not to the extent it does not force additional water from the body AFAIK. Drinking any diuretic will increase the need to use a toilet more often than just drinking the same amount of water as it forces water from your body, because your body picks up the dehydrating it encourages people to down that liquid at a much greater rate than drinking just water. Perhaps someone with more medical knowledge than me can explain it better, all I know is when I break the seal, it quickly becomes a well trodden path.

 

[Pushka]

You did make mention of annoyance of the toilet situation.

Both water and in particular Coffee can increase the amount of times someone has to use the facilities, so can be compared to beer in this sense. You can go without water for 55 minutes last time I checked. You were only inconvenienced due to your assumptions about his alcohol consumption.

The other thing to note is that there are those who are nervous flyers, and this sets off their stomachs for whatever reasons. Chances are that these people would probably end up sitting in a window seat from time to time, even though they ask for an aisle seat. It happens.

I honestly think that part of your displeasure has come from your assumptions at your seat neighbour. Apart from using the toilet twice, I fail to see any other evidence of him being a problem at all.

So, you think it fine for people to do without water for 55 mins but not beer. Really? That I don't get, at all.

And I did say that the toilet breaks were a part of the problem. So not hiding anything there. What assumptions did I make, exactly? He drank three cans of beer in a very short flight, needed to use the rest room twice, continued to request beer after the captain had told the crew to prepare for landing, used the business class toilets after the announcement they weren't for economy class, crikeys, I don't need to assume anything here. Maybe you needed to be there.

 

[mannej]

Not really comparable, after all while coffee is a diuretic, water obviously is not to the extent it does not force additional water from the body AFAIK. Drinking any diuretic will increase the need to use a toilet more often than just drinking the same amount of water as it forces water from your body, because your body picks up the dehydrating it encourages people to down that liquid at a much greater rate than drinking just water. Perhaps someone with more medical knowledge than me can explain it better, all I know is when I break the seal, it quickly becomes a well trodden path.

Technically you may be correct, however that is not the point. Would the OP have been just as annoyed if the gentleman in question had to use the toilet as much if he was drinking coffee, water or any liquid for that matter?

 

[Pushka]

Technically you may be correct, however that is not the point. Would the OP have been just as annoyed if the gentleman in question had to use the toilet as much if he was drinking coffee, water or any liquid for that matter?

I would not have been the least bit annoyed if the person was drinking water. The whole thread was the result of my concern about the responsible service of alcohol on a very short flight. Water is required for many medical conditions including bladder infections which are miserable, and diabetes. But he was chucking down beer.

 

[mannej]

So, you think it fine for people to do without water for 55 mins but not beer. Really? That I don't get, at all.

And I did say that the toilet breaks were a part of the problem. So not hiding anything there. What assumptions did I make, exactly? He drank three cans of beer in a very short flight, needed to use the rest room twice, continued to request beer after the captain had told the crew to prepare for landing, used the business class toilets after the announcement they weren't for economy class, crikeys, I don't need to assume anything here. Maybe you needed to be there.

Don't twist my words. I never said beer was more acceptable than water, and you know that.

Your assumption is quite clear in thinking that the man could not handle his beer, plain and simple. Apart from the two trips to the toilet, he did not give out any indications to suggest so. That assumption there is what has caused your issue.

Replace the beer with water, would you have still been annoyed if he used the toilets the same amount of times?

 

[markis10]

Technically you may be correct, however that is not the point. Would the OP have been just as annoyed if the gentleman in question had to use the toilet as much if he was drinking coffee, water or any liquid for that matter?

Drinking beer will increase the need to go to the toilet far more than other liquids, thereby causing more annoyance to fellow passengers, that is the point. Your body won't encourage other liquid consumption to have the same effect, I've tried with coffee!

 

[Pushka]

Don't twist my words. I never said beer was more acceptable than water, and you know that.

Your assumption is quite clear in thinking that the man could not handle his beer, plain and simple. Apart from the two trips to the toilet, he did not give out any indications to suggest so. That assumption there is what has caused your issue.

Replace the beer with water, would you have still been annoyed if he used the toilets the same amount of times?

I am not twisting your words. You said that people could go without water for 55 minutes. As for my assumptions, I made none. I observed. And I have already stated I have had no issues with people drinking water. Water is a requirement last time I checked and beer isn't.