I have the opposite of this 'Oenophobia' and need help!

[Captain Halliday]

Cancel all your accounts with DM, WM, etc. You mentioned a small network of wine loving AFFers in Sydney. Engage them as a support group. You can still buy in small quantities/ share a case with this group, but no independent buying.

Another option if you're mathematically inclined is C-(Yx52x1.83)-Y=B

Where:
Y = estimated life expectancy, from now, in years.
C = current number of bottles in your cellar
B = the number of bottles you are allowed to buy per annum

 

[Delectable Blue]

Cancel all your accounts with DM, WM, etc. You mentioned a small network of wine loving AFFers in Sydney. Engage them as a support group. You can still buy in small quantities/ share a case with this group, but no independent buying.

Another option if you're mathematically inclined is C-(Yx52x1.83)-Y=B

Where:
Y = estimated life expectancy, from now, in years.
C = current number of bottles in your cellar
B = the number of bottles you are allowed to buy per annum

That equation looks dodgy to me. It is telling me that my B = -1824 bottles per year. That just doesn't smell right to me. Are you sure there isn't supposed to be a divisor in there somewhere?

 

[sagittariusdrake]

Why not find a tame sommellier &/or community centre to hold wine tasting classes? Attendees fees would remunerate you for the wines - you could even attend or host to see first-hand the appreciation & education of others. Early in my wine journey I went to a couple of such classes & was introduced to many wines & varieties that opened up a whole new world of wine.

 

[afro]

there's no going back as long as you keep paying attention to wine, always something special/new will release, if not in aussie land, maybe Italy or france. just have to keep drinking!

 

[poochio]

If I die young I've no doubt my partner will dump the lot with Greys or Langtons as she does not drink wine.

I think one solution is to double your efforts and try and reverse this

Someone else mentioned removing yourself from emails from wine sellers - this is a great idea as the FOMO would start to disappear

 

[Dr Ralph]

I think one solution is to double your efforts and try and reverse this

Ive tried! Only way to change this is with a new partner!

 

[Captain Halliday]

That equation looks dodgy to me. It is telling me that my B = -1824 bottles per year. That just doesn't smell right to me. Are you sure there isn't supposed to be a divisor in there somewhere?

The equation may look dodgy, but your example DB highlights the point: For Dr Ralph the number of bottles going out needs to exceed the number he bring in - and by a significant margin.

And as an added bonus, while Dr Ralph is scratching his head trying to work out the equations, that's time he's not spending buying more wine!

 

[AnonymousCoward]

The equation may look dodgy,

Well, DB is also right - there is a divisor missing on the left-hand side.

The RHS is bottles/year. The LHS, without a similar divisor, is in a different set of units.

The formula should be:

A = Current Bottles
B = Yearly Consumption of Bottles
Y = Life expectancy (in Years)
C = Number of bottles remaining

A - (B*Y) = C

If C > 0 then you're not drinking fast enough
If C < 0 then you're going to exhaust your stash prior to your demise
If C = 0 then you'll just get through your stash

If you divide both sides by Y, you get a figure of bottles/year

[A - (B*Y)]/Y = C/Y

If C/Y < 0, then that's the number of bottles/year you can buy to bring C/Y to 0 (aka no stash remaining at the end)

Regards
AC

 

[Captain Halliday]

Well, DB is also right - there is a divisor missing on the left-hand side.

The RHS is bottles/year. The LHS, without a similar divisor, is in a different set of units.

The formula should be:

A = Current Bottles
B = Yearly Consumption of Bottles
Y = Life expectancy (in Years)
C = Number of bottles remaining

A - (B*Y) = C

If C > 0 then you're not drinking fast enough
If C < 0 then you're going to exhaust your stash prior to your demise
If C = 0 then you'll just get through your stash

If you divide both sides by Y, you get a figure of bottles/year

[A - (B*Y)]/Y = C/Y

If C/Y < 0, then that's the number of bottles/year you can buy to bring C/Y to 0 (aka no stash remaining at the end)

Regards
AC

And now we all know why I haven't started a maths thread

 

[burmans]

2. Stopped buying a bargain for a bargain's sake. I did that a lot in 2015. It's really hard. But I have managed to resist.

3. Instead, I am only buying the absolute best my money can buy, with minimal risk.

This. I don't have as many as Dr Ralph does, i.e. if I stopped buying I could drink it all. But I had reached a stage where I was buying more than I was drinking.

I have solved this by re-wiring my brain as to what is really a bargain.
1. It's not a bargain if you wont use it! This means if I compare it to my existing cellar would I really prefer to drink this
2. In this light cheap is not enough, quality is also important

I also question the idea of why you wont sell it. If you really wont be able to drink it then in my view the value is close to zero, so maybe selling to Langton's and "only" getting 50% of its value is the best you are going to get. This to me is more of an argument to stop buying stuff than anything.

 

[sigmadelta]

I have found that having a storage for my bottles will stop me from buying more than I can fit.
If you pile the carboard boxes up somewhere in your house, then it's easy to lose track. A database can help as well.
I wholeheartedly agree that the FOMO is strong in wine sellers' emails - they want you to think that each and every deal is a one-off.

 

[beefarmer]

Simple solution......get your granges out , your hill of graces out, your classics out and just give the other cough away. And stop buying.

 

[Dr Ralph]

And stop buying.

This is not an option and will not occur.

There can't simply be a blanket ban on buying because there are sometime just items that are so cheap that I must buy them.

Eg: Grange and Hill of Grace. I had the opportunity to buy a very small quantity of each for under $100 within the last 5 years from a private sale. 'No' was never a possible answer to this opportunity. And it never would be for me. I'd borrow money to buy at these prices. Particularly as I knew the seller and the provenance of the wine.

At worst in situations like in this example I know I can re-sell those items if I can't consumer them.

But, following many of the very constructive comments so far in this thread I am working on a plan to reduce the stock pile

 

[vedder50]

This is not an option and will not occur.

There can't simply be a blanket ban on buying because there are sometime just items that are so cheap that I must buy them.

While you may have a happy trigger finger and the thrill of a bargain, it doesn't change the facts. Each new purchase is essentially a waste in some form if you cannot drink your current cellar in a lifetime, particularly as wine does have a shelf life. If you had 1,000kg of sugar in the pantry, would you buy more if it was on special? If you cannot come to terms with the logic, then I expect a celebration when your cellar cracks the 10k mark!

 

[botchee]

Doc for an appropriate small fee I can provide some counselling within the cellar.

 

[AnonymousCoward]

There can't simply be a blanket ban on buying because there are sometime just items that are so cheap that I must buy them.

Eg: Grange and Hill of Grace. I had the opportunity to buy a very small quantity of each for under $100 within the last 5 years from a private sale. 'No' was never a possible answer to this opportunity. And it never would be for me. I'd borrow money to buy at these prices.

If Grange or HoG is going to $100/bot, then I suspect they're not worth $100/bot. Have you tried them?

 

[BettyB]

So are we doing the swap I proposed?

And I'm surprised no one has suggested an insurance claim

 

[rhodges]

Well, DB is also right - there is a divisor missing on the left-hand side.

The RHS is bottles/year. The LHS, without a similar divisor, is in a different set of units.

The formula should be:

A = Current Bottles
B = Yearly Consumption of Bottles
Y = Life expectancy (in Years)
C = Number of bottles remaining

A - (B*Y) = C

If C > 0 then you're not drinking fast enough
If C < 0 then you're going to exhaust your stash prior to your demise
If C = 0 then you'll just get through your stash

If you divide both sides by Y, you get a figure of bottles/year

[A - (B*Y)]/Y = C/Y

If C/Y < 0, then that's the number of bottles/year you can buy to bring C/Y to 0 (aka no stash remaining at the end)

Regards
AC

Unfortunately this equation may be too simplistic if some of the wines will expire before you do. That may be another reason to sell down some stock. And to refrain from auction offerings of wines that are already near or past peak.

 

[AnonymousCoward]

Unfortunately this equation may be too simplistic if some of the wines will expire before you do. That may be another reason to sell down some stock. And to refrain from auction offerings of wines that are already near or past peak.

Think of it as the rate at which bottles need to be disposed of (or topped up) - regardless of the method (drinking, giving away, tipping down the sink). Each person will need to make their own assessment re how much to actually drink as those othe rates will vary from person to person.

 

[Dr Ralph]

And I'm surprised no one has suggested an insurance claim

Betty, it may be hard to accept that I belong to a profession which has a very high regard for ethics.

Insurance fraud is not an option:

1) Because it is a criminal offence

2) Because I would lose my Practising Certificate (https://www.lawsociety.com.au/ForSolictors/practisinglawinnsw/yourpractisingcertificate/index.htm)

An insurance claim could only be a possibility if I were actually robbed or a fire destroyed my wine cellar. Whilst this is possible and hence why a person holds an insurance policy, there should be no suggestion of any intention to make a fraudulent claim.