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Is the Australian Landing card still required to be written and submitted manually?
Could we be doing arrival clearances more efficiently?
Could we be doing arrival clearances more efficiently?
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When Japan, the land of the fax machine has gone digital, you know you're more than a little behind.Yes to both.
I recall they did implement the Digital Passenger Declaration (DPD) during COVID but it was unreliable and sounded poorly executed. I hope they give it another go, especially now that NZ has gone digital with theirs.
Certainly could be - even the Kiwi's entry can be done online.Could we be doing arrival clearances more efficiently?
Being a frequent visitor to NZ (on a NZ passport) my view is the process a little slower with e-digital declaration vs the hard copy. Scanning the passport and then the agent reading on screen takes longer vs agent looking (quick scan by eye) for y/n in the questions.I recently entered NZ using their digital declaration (use App NZTD) and it definitely made customs a lot easier - NZ assesses your entry once submitted (up to 3 days in advance) and even if you declare something (eg. water sporting equipment) - it tells you to take the "nothing to declare" line.
Last time I went to Japan (Jan) it was either digital or paper, with many airlines having expected people to have used the digital form and not stocking the paper versions.When Japan, the land of the fax machine has gone digital, you know you're more than a little behind.
Hell, even Bali has an online customs declaration. It's the only way you can do it once they went paperless. Here in Australia? Nup. Too hard.Certainly could be - even the Kiwi's entry can be done online.
I frequently fill my form out well in advance, sometimes before departing for a trip. Obviously if things change I'll redo it.I'm guessing the reasons Oz is sticking to the arrival card (for customs at least) include:
* Its filled out immediately before entering the immigration area, not some days or more beforehand, so should be more accurate, if people are honest. I think for Chile I could fill it out a week or more ahead!
Easy solution again though. Customs scans your bar code, has the info on their screen and quizzes you.* Its easy for the officials to look at and immediately quiz you about something on the form, person on person, no doubt looking at what you have with you as well . We don't do scanning barcodes.
Still can be* Our customs areas are 'serious' - not the walk-through like many places
* Pax convenience is not part of their mandate
I don't often agree with you, but I think you're right here.Qantas passengers from New Zealand set to be first travellers to fill out digital Australia Travel Declaration instead of physical incoming passenger card
It would also be good if we installed simple e-gates for entry immigration rather than the current ticket/kiosk mess
NZ has had 1 e-gate for a long time. Swipe passport and if green tick it opens.. Walk 2 steps, stand in front of the camera and if matches gate opens and you are formally in Kiwiland.I don't often agree with you, but I think you're right here.
How come the UK can do it with one e-gate when we have this convoluted nonsense system? I think I do know the answer, having worked for the Australian Govt at a senior level...
The NZ e-travel declaration is far simpler. Can be done online. Linked to passport, which is swiped by the customs officer. NZ govt email specifically states no need to print out. No phone app needed.Instead of filling out a physical card on the plane, the passengers will be able to complete the required documentation up to 72 hours before their arrival into Australia.
The declaration will be made available through the Qantas app, with travellers given a digital pass, which includes a QR code, once the form is completed.
The digital pass will also be sent to a nominated email address. Passengers will then show the pass to Australian Border Force officials on arrival in Australia.
What information will be on a non govt app? A QR code which if deciphered or followedwill have secondary processing codes (out the door, go the Quarantine etc) and some bio information which the airline already has.Indeed AU govt procedures-information should not be an 3rd party commercial non govt app. For that reason I will not be using the AU e travel declaration.
Didn't realise this was on the radar but happy to hear it.The new digital Australia Travel Declaration will soon be rolled out starting with trans-Tasman flights
I must disagree. I can reliably be from aircraft door to immigration exit in 5 to 15 minutes in SYD (where I have the most practice). I recently waited hours in arrival AND departure immigration queues in the EU.This country is the worst in the developed world when it comes to airport immigration.
One assumes (and hopes) the QF integration is just for the trial.Indeed AU govt procedures-information should not be an 3rd party commercial non govt app. For that reason I will not be using the AU e travel declaration.
I actually hope that QF strikes a deal with the ABF/Gov that makes this electronic travel declaration exclusive to QF, QF codeshare and Jetstar flights only until at least the 2032 Olympics so it can help get their market share up. ABF already has a special relationship with Qantas as they agreed to install Qantas-only immigration facilities at Perth, so it’s nothing new.One assumes (and hopes) the QF integration is just for the trial.