Jetstar to replace Qantas Broome- Melbourne?

[dajop]

Most pax would want value for money IMHO, rather than just the cheapest available and limited service.

This is true, but faced between a choice of four hours on a Qantas full service flight on a 737-800 for $380 one way with a few free drinks and reruns of Two and Half Men, or a Jetstar no service flight for $$200, I think the vast majority of pax would opt for the latter, it is what makes "value for money" that drives the decisions, and everyone will have their price point.

For me, I do want value for money, now I may value FF points for such a flight at $40, a meal and a few drinks at $20, luggage at $20, that would reduce the QF fare to $300, still that's $100 I'm spending that I can't see a lot of value from over and above Jetstar. Of course if connections come into that makes it more complex.

And not to mention that the $760 return on QF is competing with fares to Fiji, Bali, Singapore, Thailand, NZ etc ...

 

[Harry G]

This is true, but faced between a choice of four hours on a Qantas full service flight on a 737-800 for $380 one way with a few free drinks and reruns of Two and Half Men, or a Jetstar no service flight for $$200, I think the vast majority of pax would opt for the latter, it is what makes "value for money" that drives the decisions, and everyone will have their price point.

For me, I do want value for money, now I may value FF points for such a flight at $40, a meal and a few drinks at $20, luggage at $20, that would reduce the QF fare to $300, still that's $100 I'm spending that I can't see a lot of value from over and above Jetstar. Of course if connections come into that makes it more complex.

And not to mention that the $760 return on QF is competing with fares to Fiji, Bali, Singapore, Thailand, NZ etc ...

the low cost thing everyone appears to push on every forum is "choice"
I think we have 3 very distinct markets in this country and this is driven by our population numbers and the vast distance, unlike UK/Europe/USA between destinations.......
firstly we have business who at the end of the day, could not care less what they pay as long as they get FF points and a meal
the second id the family/holiday traveller which mroe often than not is frequented by the above traveller because he/she has to pay!
the third is the Tiger target..... a back packer and/or the holidayer who used to drive to their holiday destination but can now afford to fly but really has no idea whatsoever about the flying thing such as check in etc - watch the Tiger show on TV - that says it all......and I mean no disrespect - that isn waht a budget carrier, not low cost carrier is all about........
so.........
all this in mind, the 4 in Australia have to try and compete and provide a product which is best suited to each category........ and as you rightly put it......
$ 780 return to Broome or $ 980 return to USA - no wonder no one travelled in Australia with this facing them but given choice as you say, makes it a little easier
be it choice or not, my opinion still goes down the path of QF getting back to the basics of a full service airline on the main routes and JQ being pushed to fly the flag for the budget concious as you rightly out it

 

[JohnK]

$ 780 return to Broome or $ 980 return to USA - no wonder no one travelled in Australia with this facing them but given choice as you say, makes it a little easier
be it choice or not, my opinion still goes down the path of QF getting back to the basics of a full service airline on the main routes and JQ being pushed to fly the flag for the budget concious as you rightly out it

Why do people make the assumption that all leisure travellers want JQ (or TT) shoved down their throat. The are people like me who refuse to fly Jetstar or other LCC's even if the airfare to BME dropped to $400 return.

I would then think $980 return to the USA on a full service carrier or $400 return to BME with a LCC. The choice is too easy.

 

[dajop]

Why do people make the assumption that all leisure travellers want JQ (or TT) shoved down their throat..

I don't understand. No-one is shoving anything down anyone's throat. No one says fly Jetstar to Broome. There plenty of non LCC options, QF via PER. QF to DRW and then Skywest or Airnorth to BME. Virgin Blue via PER or ADL. Fly to Port Hedland and drive the last 6 hours. Catch a greyhound bus.

Frankly I don't understand what the big deal is, it's not as if 4.5 hours on a QF 737-800 is anything to write home about, other than a couple of free cups of coffee, cokes or OJ's. It's cramped, the IFE is usually cough and food whilst free is hardly restaurant or even cafe quality. The seat pitch may be slightly bigger, but the seat width is narrower. Different story if connections involved, but then the via PER routing is probably fine instead.

 

[Blackadder]

Why do people make the assumption that all leisure travellers want JQ (or TT) shoved down their throat. The are people like me who refuse to fly Jetstar or other LCC's even if the airfare to BME dropped to $400 return.

I would then think $980 return to the USA on a full service carrier or $400 return to BME with a LCC. The choice is too easy.

Amen, at a pinch I will fly DJ depending on prices (allowing for the additional expenses).
However would be a cold day in hell before I set foot on board JQ or TT, I simply prefer the service from a full service carrier (esp on a longer flight).

 

[Verde]

Why do people make the assumption that all leisure travellers want JQ (or TT) shoved down their throat. The are people like me who refuse to fly Jetstar or other LCC's even if the airfare to BME dropped to $400 return.

I would then think $980 return to the USA on a full service carrier or $400 return to BME with a LCC. The choice is too easy.

Qantas isn't making it easy. It is like flying Newcastle to Brisbane. During weekdays you can get Qantas flights (and usually for little more than Jetstar/VirginBlue once luggage is factored in), but on weekends it is harder (impossible on Sundays I think).

When on a leisure trip, the lack of Qantas can be a disincentive (admittedly I am chasing SC if it will help my rise to silver and then gold in July), but it ruled out the Gold Coast for me when I was debating a Queen's Birthday long weekend away.

 

[JohnK]

I don't understand. No-one is shoving anything down anyone's throat. No one says fly Jetstar to Broome. There plenty of non LCC options, QF via PER. QF to DRW and then Skywest or Airnorth to BME. Virgin Blue via PER or ADL. Fly to Port Hedland and drive the last 6 hours. Catch a greyhound bus.

LOL. Yes one can also walk, run or swim there as well.

Seriously I think the direct option was expensive enough so would not be too keen on the connection via PER.

Frankly I don't understand what the big deal is, it's not as if 4.5 hours on a QF 737-800 is anything to write home about,

Sure it is not a big deal but it is QF and not JQ. Things go wrong and QF looks after you where as JQ leaves you out in the cold.

Oh and did I mention that not all leisure travellers are budget conscious and interested in using LCCs?

 

[dajop]

Seriously I think the direct option was expensive enough so would not be too keen on the connection via PER.

Please, wash your mouth out, swearing is forbidden on AFF. Actually ex-MEL there is usually no difference between the two (direct and indirect) on the same fare basis, so any AFF worth his/her salt would take the via PER option for the extra 15 SC's each way :!: I did check a couple of random dates and the indirect routings were always cheaper (on the dates I checked the direct flights were $1168 AUD return ... I am sure you know what $1168 spent on CX from certain places can get you ...). Makes mewonder if the plans are not to replace the direct service but supplement with JQ flights.

Oh and did I mention that not all leisure travellers are budget conscious and interested in using LCCs?

Trouble is the ones that are budget concious probably vastly outnumber those that aren't, and in any event the ones that aren't so budget concious are busy flying in Y+ or J to Europe, premium cabins on good EK fares to NZ, or anyone of a huge number of other combinations of things.