Just when you thought you had seen it all in the Qantas lounge...

[sww199]

SYD Qantas Club last week. Had to take a photo as I couldn't believe it. This woman spent about 10 minutes filing her nails onto the carpet.

 

[Mr H]

SYD Qantas Club last week. Had to take a photo as I couldn't believe it. This woman spent about 10 minutes filing her nails onto the carpet.

Where do the women in your life normally file their nails?

 

[sww199]

Where do the women in your life normally file their nails?

They aren't so time poor as to do their personal grooming in an airport lounge where others are eating and drinking, nor rude enough to leave the debris from it on the floor of a confined space for someone else to clean up.

 

[Mr H]

They aren't so time poor as to do their personal grooming in an airport lounge where others are eating and drinking, nor rude enough to leave the debris from it on the floor of a confined space for someone else to clean up.

You know you shed skin particles wherever you go? And I have only ever seen nails filled over floors, whether in private or in public. The amount of filled nail must be negligible.

 

[sww199]

You know you shed skin particles wherever you go? And I have only ever seen nails filled over floors, whether in private or in public. The amount of filled nail must be negligible.

Involuntary shedding of skin particles is an irrelevant comparison to deliberate personal grooming in an airport lounge that should be done in private or at least in the restrooms. What next. Picking one's nose and dropping the deposit onto the floor is OK?

 

[Princess Fiona]

This is definitely not a Moderator post.
Hat off

But please can we not turn this thread and/or the forum in general into a passenger shaming place? There are plenty of avenues for that elsewhere if that’s your thing.

Thank you

 

[TheRealTMA]

SYD Qantas Club last week. Had to take a photo as I couldn't believe it. This woman spent about 10 minutes filing her nails onto the carpet.
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IMHO it’s unacceptable to post images showing full faces on AFF just because you have taken umbrage at someone’s behaviour in a club lounge. Just not on. Complete infringement of privacy.

 

[Guvner]

IMHO it’s unacceptable to post images showing full faces on AFF just because you have taken umbrage at someone’s behaviour in a club lounge. Just not on. Complete infringement of privacy.

Nailed it.

 

[sww199]

The reality is that there has been a downward spiral of poor etiquette and others treating lounges like their own bathroom. It is rude, selfish and entirely unnecessary, and makes the experience unpleasant for others. And I think they should be pulled up on this. If she was happy enough to do it in public view of others for 10 minutes, I think the photo is fair game. But obviously others do not agree. Fair enough. Hence I've removed the original photo.

 

[JohnK]

The reality is that there has been a downward spiral of poor etiquette and others treating lounges like their own bathroom.

It's more like doing things in full view of the public that they would not do in their own home.

If I tried to cut my nails at home without a newspaper underneath I'd be castrated.

And who here puts their feet up on the dinner table?

I've seen some things in public that I thought I'd never see anywhere.

 

[Mr H]

It's more like doing things in full view of the public that they would not do in their own home.

If I tried to cut my nails at home without a newspaper underneath I'd be castrated.

And who here puts their feet up on the dinner table?

I've seen some things in public that I thought I'd never see anywhere.

I guess different people have different habits. I'm not a clean freak so I just cut my nails onto a coffee table and wipe the debris into my hand to pop into the bin at the end. Who here still has newspapers? And I happily put my feet on coffee tables, chairs, beds, etc. I am not saying that everyone has to be like me - just wondering why someone would tell me I have to be like them.

 

[MARTINE]

I guess different people have different habits. I'm not a clean freak so I just cut my nails onto a coffee table and wipe the debris into my hand to pop into the bin at the end. Who here still has newspapers? And I happily put my feet on coffee tables, chairs, beds, etc. I am not saying that everyone has to be like me - just wondering why someone would tell me I have to be like them.

You don't (at home)

 

[RichardMEL]

I guess different people have different habits. I'm not a clean freak so I just cut my nails onto a coffee table and wipe the debris into my hand to pop into the bin at the end. Who here still has newspapers? And I happily put my feet on coffee tables, chairs, beds, etc. I am not saying that everyone has to be like me - just wondering why someone would tell me I have to be like them.

Are you going to do.any of those things in a lounge thiugh? At home hey it's your castle.

The "debate" isn't so much, in my view, about either cultural norms (which can be different as pointed out many times) or places where things like shoes off are expected (mosques, some restaurants in places, temples, spme people's homes) but more about accepting and respecting the expected social (or cultural norms) depending on the location and situation.

Just as we need to respect the wishes of others in their environment - such as a temple or private home, thrre is an expectation most would agree with that in a westernised airport lounge(to keep this mildly on topic) that those accepted norms should be respected. It might be one thing if I enter a location ignorant of custom (eg I have never personally been in a Misque) - and when piinted out to of course comply - but it's something else totally to willfully ignore such things. Basically it is incredibly disrespectful at the very least.

To the example of clipping nails in a lounge or plane or putting feet on a table or chairs - I think the vast majority of people understand that as a shared environment this kind of thing is not acceptable. It may be called a lounge, but it's not our private loungeroom where we can do whatever we please. Again, that's respectful to others.

While I don't think we need specific pax shaming pics (pr at least cut off or blur faces) there is a point that such activities show a basic level of selfishness and disrespect. Sure, some people may be genuinely ignorant of such things, but most are not.

To me this kind of thing is no different to the common oet peeves people have in lounges - loud facetines, people viewing media without headphones, etc - this is more about expected behaviours. I have long felt the dress codes are silly, but behavioural ones - which in general bring us back to cultural and societal norms, are far more important.

It is a sad fact that some lounges eg UA actually need signage to remind people to not put their feet on the furntliture.

And that, btw, is not even about being some sort of prim and proper etiquette snob.. for me, if someone walks in with dirt and who knows what else on their shoes, or feet, then pop that up where someone will later sit? Well join the dots.

I understand some people don't worry about that sort of thing and have different standards - and that's totally fine - but in a shared environment one should defer to the accepted social standards because respect for others and courtesy.

If it's expected in some location lile a mosque or temple for example, then the same principle should apply everywhere.

 

[TY24]

It is rude, selfish and entirely unnecessary

So is posting photos of strangers on an Internet forum without blurring their identifying features

 

[JohnK]

I guess different people have different habits. I'm not a clean freak so I just cut my nails onto a coffee table and wipe the debris into my hand to pop into the bin at the end. Who here still has newspapers? And I happily put my feet on coffee tables, chairs, beds, etc. I am not saying that everyone has to be like me - just wondering why someone would tell me I have to be like them.

But that's the point.

You're in public. You shouldn't be doing any of those things in public. I'm not the judge but putting your feet up in a lounge where someone is going to be putting their food later is not good form.

Personally I'm glad there are some basic rules to follow in a lounge. It's not difficult at all. Why do you respect a temple or mosque? If you show them any respect then you should also show respect to the people around you.

 

[MARTINE]

But that's the point.

You're in public. You shouldn't be doing any of those things in public. I'm not the judge but putting your feet up in a lounge where someone is going to be putting their food later is not good form.

Personally I'm glad there are some basic rules to follow in a lounge. It's not difficult at all. Why do you respect a temple or mosque? If you show them any respect then you should also show respect to the people around you.

Well said @JohnK
Sadly - its the times we live in.
Why else do public spaces have the ubiquitous sign to not attack the staff; as if people have to be reminded/taught/told this is unacceptable.

 

[Mr H]

But that's the point.

You're in public. You shouldn't be doing any of those things in public. I'm not the judge but putting your feet up in a lounge where someone is going to be putting their food later is not good form.

The post I was replying to was where you said we should apply the same standards in public as we apply at home. Your ground is shifting.

 

[drron]

The post I was replying to was where you said we should apply the same standards in public as we apply at home. Your ground is shifting.

But you have also replied to other posts with a why not attitude towards doing things in public like filing nails in lounges which is what @JohnK
was posting about.

 

[Mr H]

But you have also replied to other posts with a why not attitude towards doing things in public like filing nails in lounges which is what @JohnK
was posting about.

Indeed. As it goes I hate the sound of filing nails. It’s like scraping a blackboard. But I see that as a me problem. I am just trying to show the illogicality and inconsistency of those who would have everyone do as they do.

 

[downgraded]

Indeed. As it goes I hate the sound of filing nails. It’s like scraping a blackboard. But I see that as a me problem. I am just trying to show the illogicality and inconsistency of those who would have everyone do as they do.

With the background noise of a lounge you wouldn't hear a decibel from a nail being filed.