Kris Flyer: You need lots of miles to fly a little way.

[auriga]

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Virgin Atlantic - Direct at 1:1 also was under 45k when they had the 20% bonus on.

One way Upper Class SYD-HKG cost 40k using their flying club miles (without any bonus).

 

[Alanslegal]

This may be off-topic, but couldn't pin point a thread to stick this to.

Those interested in J/F savers to/from AMS, well get your skates on as equipment changes has meant its from a 772 to a 77W now. And there are still some F savers available, even a at today.

I priced some F savers .... ~70K from AMS to SIN/BKK/KUL/MNL etc. Excellent value in F (P).

Get in before they remove the saver awards!

More info found at the FT thread

AMS changes to 77W from 01JUL12 - FlyerTalk Forums

 

[hummel]

This may be off-topic, but couldn't pin point a thread to stick this to.

Those interested in J/F savers to/from AMS, well get your skates on as equipment changes has meant its from a 772 to a 77W now. And there are still some F savers available, even a at today.

I priced some F savers .... ~70K from AMS to SIN/BKK/KUL/MNL etc. Excellent value in F (P).

Get in before they remove the saver awards!

More info found at the FT thread

AMS changes to 77W from 01JUL12 - FlyerTalk Forums

Good news for those that have excess miles. I've got 47k sitting in my Krisflyer account and a few in Amex to transfer... however I am so over the SQ website not working as it should. It always defaults back to Adelaide? Anyone else?

 

[cove]

Yes it should default to Perth rather than Adelaide but that was the one chosen alphabetically.

 

[Pollywaffle]

This may be off-topic, but couldn't pin point a thread to stick this to.

Those interested in J/F savers to/from AMS, well get your skates on as equipment changes has meant its from a 772 to a 77W now. And there are still some F savers available, even a at today.

I priced some F savers .... ~70K from AMS to SIN/BKK/KUL/MNL etc. Excellent value in F (P).

Get in before they remove the saver awards!

More info found at the FT thread

AMS changes to 77W from 01JUL12 - FlyerTalk Forums

I have the points but can't book anything until my leave is approved and the boss is away for another 2 weeks.

 

[dajop]

I have the points but can't book anything until my leave is approved and the boss is away for another 2 weeks.

Can you spare $30 or 3000 points if your leave doesn't get approved and need to cancel? Fees for redepositing miles on unused tickets (>24 hrs notice) are very reasonable for award bookings.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

I have the points but can't book anything until my leave is approved and the boss is away for another 2 weeks.

Cancellation is cheap...so if you are reasonably sure take the punt and book anyway.

If the deal is still open you will also be able to transfer the booking if the seats are avaiable, on the dates you want.

 

[Pollywaffle]

Cancellation is cheap...so if you are reasonably sure take the punt and book anyway.

If the deal is still open you will also be able to transfer the booking if the seats are avaiable, on the dates you want.

Can you spare $30 or 3000 points if your leave doesn't get approved and need to cancel? Fees for redepositing miles on unused tickets (>24 hrs notice) are very reasonable for award bookings.

Yes, I am being proactive and doing that now.

I am looking for a Europe>SYD one way business saver award flight but it's either a case of waitlisting for both flights and booking an available one and waitlisting for the one of the legs. I have looked at London, Copnehagen, Manchester, Munich, Paris, Frankfurt and Rome. I am a frequent spender, not flyer, so aircraft type is not my main driver - any business class flight is nicer for me than economy.


For those of you more experienced, what happens if I book one leg and waitlist for the other - especially if waitlist and this is declined. How many points are then decucted? I searched on the Singapore site but cannot find this info yet.

 

[dajop]

For those of you more experienced, what happens if I book one leg and waitlist for the other - especially if waitlist and this is declined. How many points are then decucted? I searched on the Singapore site but cannot find this info yet.

If you book and confirm on one flight, and waitlist on another flight in the same booking, it will not ticket automatically, and therefore won't deduct any points. Then you need to either wait for waitlist and then confirm/ticket or ticket originally confirmed flight by due date. At 6pm Singapore time on the due date, the booking (including the confirmed flight), will most likely drop out of the system (although sometimes they do get extended, but would not rely on this).

With the website problems, you may be unable to ticket online if the waitlist comes through, and will need to call. However they should apply the 15% online discount as they are well aware of the problems.

 

[cove]

Dajop that is a great idea on how little it costs to cancel a booking that is with Kris Flyer.
We have only ever cancelled one booking and that was when there was a major change on the Kris Flyer website that had me going to London on successive days out of Singapore.
That fee is very,very modest for the flexibility you can get if you book a just in case trip

 

[Pollywaffle]

If you book and confirm on one flight, and waitlist on another flight in the same booking, it will not ticket automatically, and therefore won't deduct any points. Then you need to either wait for waitlist and then confirm/ticket or ticket originally confirmed flight by due date. At 6pm Singapore time on the due date, the booking (including the confirmed flight), will most likely drop out of the system (although sometimes they do get extended, but would not rely on this).

With the website problems, you may be unable to ticket online if the waitlist comes through, and will need to call. However they should apply the 15% online discount as they are well aware of the problems.

Thank you very much for your help.

I've found an AMS>SYD flight that suits and have submitted my request.

The AMS>SIN leg (Boeing 777-300ER) is available while the SIN>SYD leg (Airbus A330-300) is waitlisted.

 

[Awesom Andy]

while the SIN>SYD leg (Airbus A330-300) is waitlisted.

Since when did they take the A333 to SYD?

 

[Pollywaffle]

Since when did they take the A333 to SYD?

Haven't got the foggiest. My flight request is for late September. Perhaps the intention is to start flying them soon on this route?

 

[MH_fan]

I'm not particularly familiar with KrisFlyer but I was wondering if somebody can tell me how many miles it costs to redeem a return business saver award from SYD to LHR? I had a look at their website and they only listed a return business standard award at 300000 miles and a full award at 1056000 miles! I am completely shocked at the quotes.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

I'm not particularly familiar with KrisFlyer but I was wondering if somebody can tell me how many miles it costs to redeem a return business saver award from SYD to LHR? I had a look at their website and they only listed a return business standard award at 300000 miles and a full award at 1056000 miles! I am completely shocked at the quotes.

You can only get J Savers to a limited number of European SQ destinations and LHR is not one of them. The reason is that J/FSavers are not normally available on the 300ER and A380 (ie their best planes).

Rome, Amsterdam (about to go due to 300ER being put on the route), Athens, Copenhagen and Istanbul.

However if you book *A via SQ you can get a return J to Europe including London for 150,000 points. ie on Thai for example.

 

[The Rok]

You can only get J Savers to a limited number of European SQ destinations and LHR is not one of them. The reason is that J/FSavers are not normally available on the 300ER and A380 (ie their best planes).

Rome, Amsterdam (about to go due to 300ER being put on the route), Athens, Copenhagen and Istanbul.

However if you book *A via SQ you can get a return J to Europe including London for 150,000 points. ie on Thai for example.

SQ will really need to address this. Especially with more and more 777's and 380's coming on board.

 

[MH_fan]

What a rip-off! It sounds like KrisFlyer is completely not worth it!
I tried looking at *A carriers for a redemption ticket and it kept saying invalid flight sector for the selected carrier. Geez. I thought the Enrich website was bad but KrisFlyer is even worse!!

 

[lovetravellingoz]

What a rip-off! It sounds like KrisFlyer is completely not worth it!
I tried looking at *A carriers for a redemption ticket and it kept saying invalid flight sector for the selected carrier. Geez. I thought the Enrich website was bad but KrisFlyer is even worse!!

1/ You cannot look or book *A on the SQ website. You need to call to book.


2/ Rip-off? I don't follow you logic. Rip-off compared with what other FF programs that most Australian Residents can move/earn points to? Certainly not QFF...just try to to get a J return to Europe via QFF for the 127,500 150,000 that you can with SQ.


What is best with FF programs is different for each of us and includes many variables such as how you earn points, where you want to fly, how you want to fly, what availability you are happy with etc.

For my circumstances as an Australian Resident booking SQ Saver Js and *a Js represents excellent value.

There are some opportunities to buy points with AA and the like at excellent rates...but so far I have not needed to as I can earn points for redemption at a much lower rate via SQ.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

What a rip-off! It sounds like KrisFlyer is completely not worth it!

I think we would all be most interested to hear what ways you have that are better value than redeeming Saver J's or *A Js via SQ.

Also how do you earn your points? Ceratainly if by mainly flying then many would not put to SQ (though BMI will soon not be an option, which was a favourite of many).

 

[dajop]

You can only get J Savers to a limited number of European SQ destinations and LHR is not one of them. The reason is that J/FSavers are not normally available on the 300ER and A380 (ie their best planes).

SQ will really need to address this. Especially with more and more 777's and 380's coming on board.

They are slowly, in dribs and drabs depending very much on loadings. Recently I've scored a J saver SIN-SYD on A380 and have seen SIN-LHR on A380 available for waitlisting. Savers on 77W's seem more difficult to come by though.

2/ Rip-off? I don't follow you logic. Rip-off compared with what other FF programs that most Australian Residents can move/earn points to? Certainly not QFF...just try to to get a J return to Europe via QFF for the 127,500 150,000 that you can with SQ.

In comparison to QF you don't even need to quote the savers. For earn using CC's, say at 1 pt per$ spent - QF business class awards return to Europe will cost 256,000 pts . SQ standard awards will cost 255,000 pts return (booked online) a and have availability pretty much when you want it, and if it's not there can be waitlisted with a good chance of success. (Plus for this number of points you have a wider range of destinations than on QF).

When it's back to flying, though, SQ's 150,000 for a TG (or star alliance partner redemption) is more aligned to QF's 256,000 pts (assuming higher tiers).

But I will add, MH have recently re-invigorated Enrich and points levels are often better than (or at least similar to SQ's). If using CC's earned points in Australia, that's great for Altitude earnt points (1:1 tfr) but not so good for Amex points (where SQ is 1:1 but MH is 4:3). I did an award booking on a 772 in MH last year in J. It was OK, but the seat (2-3-2 in 777) was not fantastic and much preferred the retrofitted SQ 777 (with 2-2-2) for about the same number of points.