Life Time Gold - The [Realistic] Holy Grail

[sudoer]

hint, I've got lifetime gold is not a valid reason...

"I bought this membership with the intention of using it in HKG and NRT"?

4.4 Subject to clause 4.5, if Qantas closes a Qantas operated airport lounge in a Member's registered city of residence without replacing it, or amends these Terms and Conditions or the Club Rules in a way that deprives the Member substantially of the intended use of the membership, the Member will have the option of cancelling their membership and receiving a pro rata refund of the membership fee for the remaining period of membership.

 

[SydneySwan]

How do you calculate pro-rata on a lifetime membership? What age do you assume you will live to? 90, 100, 200?

 

[NM]

How do you calculate pro-rata on a lifetime membership? What age do you assume you will live to? 90, 100, 200?

I am planning on living until 150 ... so far so good

 

[NM]

In my case, it was employer who paid for a 2-year membership renewal about 6 months before lounge access became a status benefit. So I was not personally out of pocket so I really can't justify trying to pursue a pro-rata refund. I was thankful for the membership being paid by my then employer and I am thankful for lounge access being included as a QFF membership status benefit for LTG, so win-win for me and no need to seek a pro-rata refund.

My original lounge membership was Australian Airlines Flight Deck, before they merged with Qantas. My first ever lounge visit was to a Qantas Captains Lounge, as it was called in 1989, which was an entitlement due to class of service.

 

[sudoer]

How do you calculate pro-rata on a lifetime membership? What age do you assume you will live to? 90, 100, 200?

A few years back Qantas was publishing end dates for people's lifetime QC which equated to about a 50 year membership. I don't know if it's still the case, but they do have some date on file for when your lifetime will apparently end

Qantas seems to have announced my death!

I just logged into my Qantas Club membership to check something and noticed a message that says my club membership will expire on 18 Feb 2040! I've been a life member since 1990 so assume Qantas knows when I'm going to leave this mortal coil. Has anyone else received the same message...

www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au

 

[Vic]

No idea how to calculate lifetime refunds - Australian life expectancy???

"I bought this membership with the intention of using it in HKG and NRT"?

I think there has been a reduction in benefits since I purchased my 5 year membership 13/14 years ago beyond just honkers and narita, istr something about BA and maybe the emirates thing.
I originally got qantas club back when status wasn't really a thing, and qantas club was the go to... So I think it's fair to say there has been a "substantial" reduction in the value of qantas club since then, and perhaps substantial since my last 5 year renewal. Yes, if it came to it lawyers would have to argue over what is substantial, etc.

So the short answer, no I wouldn't say anything about specific ports. Just "I'm no longer able to use the membership for my intended use." Certainly not, "I've got lifetime gold".

Having said all that; I tend to look at my residual qantas club membership as a donation to keep people in a job. (especially after the last 2 years). Same as my unrefunded seat selection fees in 2020...

 

[dairyfloss]

I think it's pretty safe to assume that with the wealth of data that Qantas has from all it's divisions and exploits, together with what is available in the public domain from sources like the ABS, they would have a quite accurate view on how long a 'Lifetime' membership would last... or at least, for how long it is likely to cost them anything!

Cheers,
Matt.

 

[JessicaTam]

[mod hat]
A friendly reminder this is not the LTQC thread but the LTG thread!
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[Vic]

Absolutely not questioning anything in thread...

It is fair to say that lifetime gold does create implications for a whole range of matters - qantas club, BAEC, AA, for a limited number of examples.

 

[fifo]

can y

Absolutely not questioning anything in thread...

It is fair to say that lifetime gold does create implications for a whole range of matters - qantas club, BAEC, AA, for a limited number of examples.

can you elaborate please slightly?? re aa baec?

 

[Flashback]

can y

can you elaborate please slightly?? re aa baec?

In that once LTG is attained, most people are better off crediting to BAEC, AAdvantage, etc.

 

[JohnK]

In that once LTG is attained, most people are better off crediting to BAEC, AAdvantage, etc.

Glad you said most but I'm not even sure most would credit to another program after Lifetime Gold.

With Lifetime Gold it means I don't need to worry about accumulating status and enjoy the benefits that Gold brings until it gets enhanced.

 

[Vic]

can y

can you elaborate please slightly?? re aa baec?

Pretty much what @Flashback said

Glad you said most but I'm not even sure most would credit to another program after Lifetime Gold.

With Lifetime Gold it means I don't need to worry about accumulating status and enjoy the benefits that Gold brings until it gets enhanced.

and I'm a prime example of some one still crediting to qantas 3500 status later, despite having both AA and BA...

 

[Beano]

It all depends on if you are happy with LTG and can accumulate SCs with other airlines. Personally I have been QP for a few years and enjoy the additional benefits, e.g. Qantas F lounge. Unfortunately this may not continue so perhaps I should develop another airline's benefits such as Air NZ which flies directly WLG-BNE?

 

[fifo]

Pretty much what @Flashback said


and I'm a prime example of some one still crediting to qantas 3500 status later, despite having both AA and BA...may i ask why?

may i ask why?

 

[Beano]

In my case it would be a completely new frequent flier scheme, i.e, Star Alliance instead of One World, mostly because that would ll that was available to me, apart from Virgin.

 

[Vic]

may i ask why?

I'm not sure if you mean why I haven't switched or why switching is good.
On the first, laziness, and covid have impacted my ability to do the research required, and I've been able to maintain qantas platinum. I also wasn't sure about the transition period, but I've been flying business 90% of the time so transition probably doesn't matter.

On why switch, As best I understand:
AA points are much more valuable and usable. I already have some AA points. for example: being able to get multi-flight business for Australian domestic for 20000 points (flat fee) and $60 for 4, 6 months before flight time.
BA is have better benefits for their platinum equivalent. They also have an attainable life time platinum level. I think I've heard avios are also easier to get redemptions than Qantas. But not sure about that last one.

 

[fifo]

I'm not sure if you mean why I haven't switched or why switching is good.
On the first, laziness, and covid have impacted my ability to do the research required, and I've been able to maintain qantas platinum. I also wasn't sure about the transition period, but I've been flying business 90% of the time so transition probably doesn't matter.

On why switch, As best I understand:
AA points are much more valuable and usable. I already have some AA points. for example: being able to get multi-flight business for Australian domestic for 20000 points (flat fee) and $60 for 4, 6 months before flight time.
BA is have better benefits for their platinum equivalent. They also have an attainable life time platinum level. I think I've heard avios are also easier to get redemptions than Qantas. But not sure about that last one.

thanks the q was on the switch - these are supre great points thankyou. this sort of info is what i was asking originally.

 

[Vic]

thanks the q was on the switch - these are supre great points thankyou. this sort of info is what i was asking originally.

Sorry if I was a bit hesitant in answering. Just there are plenty of others here who are far more knowledgeable about this than me. I didn't really want to give the wrong info.

 

[Beano]

Sorry if I was a bit hesitant in answering. Just there are plenty of others here who are far more knowledgeable about this than me. I didn't really want to give the wrong info.

All info gratefully received.