Locking the J toilet door

[justinbrett]

I have never said passenger should have "carte blanche" access in any sense - the CC have complete control of the cabin. Straw man arguments do not progress the debate.

I think you're being really disingenuous here. Your first post on the topic:

Loos should be available to everyone on the airplane irrespective of ticket price.

I've used the F loos on the QF A380 flying J. It's not special. A loo is a loo and the access is/should be the same as breathing air.

I'm not sure if you normally ask for permission to breathe but otherwise I think you started with a very clear argument that any loo is fair game, and have gradually restricted your argument as nobody else backed you. More or less you're now saying if you ask then it's fine, which is fair enough, but certainly not how you started. But then again you also made recent comments like:

The only difference between you and me is that I go further and say WC should be open to all passengers irrespective of class.

Would it really kill you to just use the loos in your own cabin? Why are you so special?

 

[DejaBrew]

I think you started with a very clear argument that any loo is fair game

To be fair, I read that more in terms of “everyone is entitled to the use of a toilet” and that just because a toilet is earmarked for a particular cabin doesn’t mean that anyone not seated in that cabin has zero rights to use it. I think we’ve established that the CC can grant access at their discretion. Again, just my interpretation of that initial comment.

 

[Quickstatus]

I think you started with a very clear argument that any loo is fair game

Hmm no, I meant what it said and ive repeatedly said so. Straw man arguments abound...

And it should be like breathing air but we all know that the CC rule the cabins. So a simple request is all that's needed

 

[VPS]

Interesting flying BA there are no announcements about using the toilets at the front of the cabin and no issues with people using them

 

[tgh]

Maybe rather than locking the J toilet, we should lock this thread now.

Will someone press the flush button please ?

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Interesting flying BA there are no announcements about using the toilets at the front of the cabin and no issues with people using them

Doesn’t BA have a curtain?

 

[XWu]

Interesting flying BA there are no announcements about using the toilets at the front of the cabin and no issues with people using them

Just curious, but do you agree on QF and VA domestic routes talking about which loo for which pax is part of routine announcements?

 

[VPS]

Doesn’t BA have a curtain?

No

Just curious, but do you agree on QF and VA domestic routes talking about which loo for which pax is part of routine announcements?

 

[Rugby]

I have a foot in each cabin on this one. If I’m flying J there is no way that anyone from down the back should be allowed to use the business class loo. But of course if I’m flying Y then it’s open season on the front throne.

 

[justinbrett]

No

This flyertalk thread suggests at least curtains are supposed to be there, and if missing it’s due to delivery of incorrect lockers which are being fixed (and then curtain installed).

Also at least one report of FA direction that the front loo is for club only.

Is it curtains for Club Europe curtains? - FlyerTalk Forums

British Airways | Executive Club - Is it curtains for Club Europe curtains? - Originally Posted by chriswiles This has, as you rightly say, been discussed so many times. It's far from a new thing. The curtains are lacking on the newer NEO due to the 'wrongly configured lockers' according to crew...

www.flyertalk.com

 

[blackcat20]

Sorry then you haven't been listening on most of your domestic flights in Australia. VA always mention Y pax down the back and QF only occasionally miss doing that.

I have been in Y on occasions on the 737 and the line of pax waiting for the J loo was past my seat in Row 4. On the other hand I witnessed a woman in Y with a toddler ask if she could use the J loo as she needed to change the child. Told firmly do that down the back.

There's no change table in the J loo anyway, so even when flying J I've had to go back to Y to do nappy changes (and its a tight squeeze back there!).

 

[chiken_nugets]

I've had to go back to Y

I hope you asked for permission before entering the Y cabin

 

[blackcat20]

I hope you asked for permission before entering the Y cabin

They always let you know when they drop off the infant seatbelt that the change table is in the Y loos, so I guess that counts.