Lounge Entry: Available

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tofe

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Hi there,

I've just flown my first Virgin Australia sector in a while and when checking in online I was surprised to see a confirmation email containing the text "LOUNGE ENTRY Available*"

"Complimentary Lounge entry at selected cities before your flights departure, where Lounge service is offered."

This text was located in large font under the area where my checked and carry-on-baggage baggage allowances and infant equipment were also listed as included.

I did book an economy fare and as a velocity red member I didn't expect lounge access until I read this mail.

II looked for the fine print which stated;

"Carriage and other services provided by Virgin Australia are subject to our Fare Rules and Conditions of Carriage which form part of our contract. The Conditions of Carriage include (amongst other things): (A) Limits on our liability for personal injury or death of passengers and for loss, damage, or delay of goods and baggage; (B) Restrictions and procedures that apply to any claims you may make against us; (C) Our rules about bookings, seat allocations, ticketing, baggage, check-in times, refusal of carriage; (D) Our rights and limitations concerning flight delays or cancellations, including schedule changes, substitution of alternate airline or aircraft and rerouting; and (E) Information regarding the management of your Personal Information. You may access these Conditions of Carriage and Fare Rules online Conditions of Carriage | Virgin Australia.
Unless the Fare Rules that apply to your travel state otherwise, refunds of your ticket price are not available and any refund which is available will be made in the manner set out in the Conditions of Carriage. Virgin Australia may charge reasonable fees in relation to any refunds, ticket re-issuance and other circumstances as set out in our Fare Rules and Conditions of Carriage. Virgin Australia reserves the right to change fares before you pay for your reservation. Your Reservation Number is confidential and should only be given to Virgin Australia staff or your travel agent. Anyone with access to your Reservation Number will have access to your personal information. This document and any accompanying attachments are intended for the person names only. The information contained in this document may include Personal Information (as defined by the Privacy Act 1988 (Cth)). If you are not the named person, any use, interference with, disclosure or copying of this document, including any attachments is unauthorised and expressly prohibited."

I didn't see any text in the above that I thought precluded my 'complementary' lounge access and the fact the email confirmation was personalised with my details I thought I'd try access. I was declined despite showing my boarding pass and email confirmation with the above details.

Apologies if this is is a daft question but should I have been allowed entry in this instance?

If not, why list this in my booking confirmation email as available and complementary?

Any thoughts appreciated.

Cheers,
 
If you're a Velocity red on an economy fare there is no reason for you to be entitled to lounge access so I can only assume this is a bug of some description - there are a number of issues with the booking engine and website that are still to be fixed. Seems like a freak occurrence to me.
 
Seems like a bug. But I am sure VFF will be along shortly to find out more details (to fix the bug) and offer you a lounge pass or two for the inconvenience.

Or... At least, that is how I would deal with this thread if I was a social media expert!
 
Just a leftfield thing out there. I remember a long time back VA (or then DJ) were offering free passes to give people a taste and hopefully show them the benefit. I remember getting one years ago. Maybe it's a similar (unannounced) promotion? QF seem to do something similar, they go even further and sometimes hand out random SG memberships to a lucky few.

Without casting aspersions on the wonderful AFF crew (love youse guys) most people on here simply would have had status for way too long to have first hand experience of what gets drolled out to the unwashed masses.

I'd say print it out and then demand it at the airport!
 
Even if it was a bug, surely the right thing to do is offer lounge access and keep a happy customer.
 
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I did present a copy of the email to the people at the desk but was dismissed pretty quickly.

It was the end of a pretty long week, and didn't really expect admission but yeah would have been a nice bonus, and to compare it to the Qatar lounges.
 
tofe, I feel sorry for you. It sounds like a mistake in the software programming but it would be good PR by Virgin Australia to allow you entry given that the staff would know it was not you inserting the 'free offer' into an email or other computer generated information.

Make it +2 for definitely poor form. Virgin wants to be careful that it is not accused of being misleading, not that I ever want to be too legalistic as that is a trait of one overseas nation in particular that we should try to eliminate in Australia.
 
Updating you all, that a fix has been made to this bug.
If you do happen to come across it, please let us know via PM (including your flight details)
Thanks.

VFF, in the past, one of my biggest accolaides I've bestowed on VA has been for the apparant ability of the Angels and GCC staff to make decisions "on the fly" without being strictly constrained by a "how to" manual. This case seems to be a classic example of where the angels should have been able to not just allow the OP access, but to be atturned to the VA ideal enough to see the rightful argument put by the OP and agree (albeit with urgent notification of the bug to head orifice).

So may I ask, was the particular angel(s) a bit too "blinkered" or have their powers of situation judgements been wound back? (BTW, I believe the recovery action detailed in post 11 was admirable. My most sincere congratulations on the decision.)
 
VFF, in the past, one of my biggest accolaides I've bestowed on VA has been for the apparant ability of the Angels and GCC staff to make decisions "on the fly" without being strictly constrained by a "how to" manual. This case seems to be a classic example of where the angels should have been able to not just allow the OP access, but to be atturned to the VA ideal enough to see the rightful argument put by the OP and agree (albeit with urgent notification of the bug to head orifice).

So may I ask, was the particular angel(s) a bit too "blinkered" or have their powers of situation judgements been wound back? (BTW, I believe the recovery action detailed in post 11 was admirable. My most sincere congratulations on the decision.)

Every instance is different, and the staff member in question made a call, at a time when it was quite busy. We've spoken to the member, apologised and offered Lounge access for his next flights.

The "how to" manual, as you say, is there for a reason - to maintain access and a quality product for our frequent flyers, like yourself Swanning_It.
 
We currently have the team checking into this, as it is appearing by mistake on some boarding pass emails.
We have been in touch with the OP, and offered Lounge passes as an apology.

Hi all,

Just thought I'd post a follow up to this to let those who are interested know how it has finished up, after Velocity Frequent Flyer also provided updates via this thread.

Despite the above post from Velocity Frequent Flyer (and a PM) offering an apology and 2 x complementary lounge passes on the 22nd of June 2013, I still had not received the passes by the 2nd of August (last Friday).

I sent a follow up PM to Velocity Frequent Flyer on the 2nd of August and received a response the following Monday 5th of August again apologising for the inconvenience and explaining that the reason I hadn't received the passes yet was a 'simple human error'. This afternoon I received a call from Velocity Customer Services offering me the 2 x lounge passes as an apology for the inconvenience caused on the 14th of June.

I'm not sure if these lounge passes are transferrable or not, but if they are, I'm happy to give them to someone else if anyone is interested.

cheers,
tofe.
 
The "how to" manual, as you say, is there for a reason - to maintain access and a quality product for our frequent flyers,
That's very true, but a set of rules raely cover all situations and sensible judgement is warranted frequently to avoid that bitter after taste VA seem to be leaving with increased regularity.

The point I was trying to make (not very well obviously), was that VA and VFF for a very short time in their history, were actually making a very real, noticable and appreciated difference in the air travel market in Oz. Most of this seemed to revolve around an acceptance and perhaps even a direction to staff, to treat frequent flyers as if they actually mean something to VA and presume they are right rather than wrong and use the better judgement that most VA staff proved they do actually possess.

A rule book and common sense can in fact coexist harmoniously provided it isn't all overlorded by lawyers..............there is absolutely no reason for VA to be so antagonistic toward people who make a reasonable argument in support of their expectations.
 
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