Luggage allowance with transfer from Qantas to British Airways with Qantas Club

[Travel84]

Hello,
I have a flight booked from Sydney to Frankfurt via London and am a Qantas Club Member. When checking the baggage allowance it shows 42kg for the Qantas Flight Sydney to London, and then for the British Airways flight London to Frankfurt 30kg. It also says "Your Frequent Flyer additional baggage entitlements are not recognised by British Airways."

Does this mean I only get 30kg of luggage or do I get 42kg?

 

[Archipelago]

Hello,
I have a flight booked from Sydney to Frankfurt via London and am a Qantas Club Member. When checking the baggage allowance it shows 42kg for the Qantas Flight Sydney to London, and then for the British Airways flight London to Frankfurt 30kg. It also says "Your Frequent Flyer additional baggage entitlements are not recognised by British Airways."

Does this mean I only get 30kg of luggage or do I get 42kg?

Unless I am misunderstanding you - Qantas Club membership offers no additional baggage allowances on British Airways (only on QF or EK).
Only Qantas Frequent Flyer tiered status with OneWorld offers additional baggage - as per what you quoted - "Your Frequent Flyer additional baggage entitlements are not recognised by British Airways." Frequent Flyer is not the same as Qantas Club

Checked Baggage - Qantas

 

[serfty]

Does this mean I only get 30kg of luggage or do I get 42kg?

No, for a single trip, Qantas is the "most significant carrier" and Qantas rules apply- your luggage will be checked through to Frankfort at Sydney. (You won't see your bags until Frankfurt.)

If this is a round trip, then you may have issues when checking in with BA on the return.

 

[henrus]

Does this mean I only get 30kg of luggage or do I get 42kg?

It means you get 42kg on the flight from Sydney to London and then 30kg on the flight from London to Frankfurt.

If you want to check over 30kg but under 42kg the whole way through you'll need to pay excess luggage fees for just the London to Frankfurt sector.

Otherwise keep the total limit under 30kg to ensure you are not charged any excess fees.

 

[OATEK]

It means you get 42kg on the flight from Sydney to London and then 30kg on the flight from London to Frankfurt.

If you want to check over 30kg but under 42kg the whole way through you'll need to pay excess luggage fees for just the London to Frankfurt sector.

Otherwise keep the total limit under 30kg to ensure you are not charged any excess fees.

If the baggage is checked through from SYD to FRA, then the 42kg will apply, because the luggage is in the system. If however there is a stopover in London, then at check-in with BA (and for the flight returning from FRA) the 30kg rule will apply.

 

[justinbrett]

It means you get 42kg on the flight from Sydney to London and then 30kg on the flight from London to Frankfurt.

If you want to check over 30kg but under 42kg the whole way through you'll need to pay excess luggage fees for just the London to Frankfurt sector.

Otherwise keep the total limit under 30kg to ensure you are not charged any excess fees.

Whilst that is technically correct, in practice, it's much closer to what @serfty said.

QF will check the bag through to the destination with no extra charges, recognising your additional allowances.

BA will charge on the return if you go over - and not only that, they'll likely charge you all the way back to Australia.

I know from first hand, if you are connecting AA domestically to catch a QF international flight, even on a codeshare, AA won't recognise QFF benefits (though most are similar to the AA oneworld benefits). Not only that, but they can't just charge you for their domestic sector, they'll charge you all the way to SYD. However they'll usually waive it if you explain the situation.

 

[RooFlyer]

I can't add anything more except welcome to AFF @Travel84

 

[Travel84]

Whilst that is technically correct, in practice, it's much closer to what @serfty said.

QF will check the bag through to the destination with no extra charges, recognising your additional allowances.

BA will charge on the return if you go over - and not only that, they'll likely charge you all the way back to Australia.

I know from first hand, if you are connecting AA domestically to catch a QF international flight, even on a codeshare, AA won't recognise QFF benefits (though most are similar to the AA oneworld benefits). Not only that, but they can't just charge you for their domestic sector, they'll charge you all the way to SYD. However they'll usually waive it if you explain the situation.

Sounds like it might be simpler to book a Qantas/Emirates flight in the future that doesn't go via London.

 

[henrus]

Sounds like it might be simpler to book a Qantas/Emirates flight in the future that doesn't go via London.

Qantas club extra allowances only apply to Qantas operated flights (meaning no extra on EK flights).

Silver is the only odd one out where they get an extra allowance on Qantas/Emirates flights but not on most oneworld flights.

Plus Qantas gold/oneworld sapphire is flight different. QF gold gets 16kg allowance extra on QF/EK flights but only 15kg on oneworld flights. I have a ticket later this year from GVA to LHR (operated by BA) and then LHR to SIN (operated by QF). The allowance in the app says I get 45kg from GVA to LHR and then 46kg from LHR to SIN.

 

[Travel84]

Qantas club extra allowances only apply to Qantas operated flights (meaning no extra on EK flights).

Silver is the only odd one out where they get an extra allowance on Qantas/Emirates flights but not on most oneworld flights.

Plus Qantas gold/oneworld sapphire is flight different. QF gold gets 16kg allowance extra on QF/EK flights but only 15kg on oneworld flights. I have a ticket later this year from GVA to LHR (operated by BA) and then LHR to SIN (operated by QF). The allowance in the app says I get 45kg from GVA to LHR and then 46kg from LHR to SIN.

Not according to what the Qantas website says.

Qantas Frequent Flyer and Qantas Club members are entitled to an additional non ticketed checked baggage allowance. This allowance applies to travel on:

• Qantas and QantasLink operated flights with a QF flight number (excluding services to and from Lord Howe Island and QF codeshare services).
• Emirates operated flights between and within Europe, The Middle East, North Africa, Asia, New Zealand and Australia when booked with either a QF or EK flight number on your ticket.

It also says the following on my ticket:

Member Allowances: Qantas Frequent Flyer and Qantas Club member baggage allowances apply to travel on Qantas and QantasLink operated flights with a QF flight number on your ticket, excluding flights to or from Lord Howe Island and Mount Hotham. These allowances also apply to Emirates operated flights with an EK flight number between and within Europe, the Middle East, North Africa, Asia and Australia. These benefits are not coughulative.

 

[henrus]

Not according to what the Qantas website says.

Qantas Frequent Flyer and Qantas Club members are entitled to an additional non ticketed checked baggage allowance. This allowance applies to travel on:

You neglected the word "some"

screenshot from page : https://www.qantas.com/au/en/travel-info/baggage/checked-baggage.html

On the Qantas emirates page it clearly shows no extra baggage for Qantas club members

screenshot from page : https://www.qantas.com/au/en/qantas-experience/network-and-partner-airlines/emirates.html

Similarly on the Qantas club benefits page : https://www.qantas.com/au/en/frequent-flyer/the-qantas-club/benefits.html
the following is listed:

When you scroll down to the footnote 1 you get the following:



The only Qantas club emirates benefit is access to Qantas lounge (plus the Dubai business class lounge) but only when travelling on a Emirates flight with a QF codeshare flight number.

 

[Travel84]

You neglected the word "some"
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screenshot from page : https://www.qantas.com/au/en/travel-info/baggage/checked-baggage.html

On the Qantas emirates page it clearly shows no extra baggage for Qantas club members
View attachment 286520
screenshot from page : https://www.qantas.com/au/en/qantas-experience/network-and-partner-airlines/emirates.html

Similarly on the Qantas club benefits page : https://www.qantas.com/au/en/frequent-flyer/the-qantas-club/benefits.html
the following is listed:
View attachment 286521
When you scroll down to the footnote 1 you get the following:
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The only Qantas club emirates benefit is access to Qantas lounge (plus the Dubai business class lounge) but only when travelling on a Emirates flight with a QF codeshare flight number.

Why do you keep insisting on posting wrong information?

 

[henrus]

Why do you keep insisting on posting wrong information?

I am not posting wrong information, I am quoting directly from Qantas' website providing source links with all information. It's very clear from Qantas' website that Qantas club does not get any extra baggage on Emirates (or any Qantas partner).

 

[justinbrett]

It's very clear from Qantas' website that Qantas club does not get any extra baggage on Emirates (or any Qantas partner).

It's not clear to me. It seems the pages are conflicting and are not up to date.

As the baggage page was updated not that long ago (last year), I tend to favour that and believe that QC members do get extra but only with the geographic are stipulated (ie, not for travel to the US).

The some caveat is defined by the following two bullet points - ie only on QF flights and EK flights within the geographic area.

You could be right, but it is certainly not clear.

 

[henrus]

As the baggage page was updated not that long ago (last year), I tend to favour that and believe that QC members do get extra but only with the geographic are stipulated (ie, not for travel to the US).

Using the wayback machine (cached historic web pages) I can see that the baggage page from 2018 (or any year in between) still has the same text:

Checked baggage | Qantas AU

Find out our checked baggage allowances for your domestic or international flight.

web.archive.org

 

[justinbrett]

Using the wayback machine (cached historic web pages) I can see that the baggage page from 2018 (or any year in between) still has the same text:

Checked baggage | Qantas AU

Find out our checked baggage allowances for your domestic or international flight.

web.archive.org

Yes but it means the page was reviewed (there was substantial changes in other parts of the page), even if the content we are looking at didn't change.

 

[jpp42]

I know from first hand, if you are connecting AA domestically to catch a QF international flight, even on a codeshare, AA won't recognise QFF benefits (though most are similar to the AA oneworld benefits). Not only that, but they can't just charge you for their domestic sector, they'll charge you all the way to SYD. However they'll usually waive it if you explain the situation.

I had this experience too, it just seemed to require the agent to consult some additional screen that showed the QF baggage benefits, in order for them to be authorised to override what the system was trying to charge. Didn't even require a supervisor's approval - so I reckon this was just a system limitation and they were doing their best to follow the rules of the QF-issued ticket, which definitely do apply for the codeshare domestic ticket as mentioned above (most significant carrier).