Major changes to Velocity Frequent Flyer announced 17/10/24

Even anedoctally observing the VA2 lounges there are hardly any business / corps in there these days at all…. It’s like they’ve all migrated. None of my business friends are VA WOB anymore, at best it’s BFOD and a lot are now QF WOB.
I would think many SMEs are still on VA, although probably in Y otherwise they'd be BFOD.

Many companies have contracts with VA or QF; don't know what are the lengths of terms (i.e. before they can change their minds), but then again I'm not sure how many would switch due to a change in the loyalty proposition.
 
I would think many SMEs are still on VA, although probably in Y otherwise they'd be BFOD.

Many companies have contracts with VA or QF; don't know what are the lengths of terms (i.e. before they can change their minds), but then again I'm not sure how many would switch due to a change in the loyalty proposition.
I wonder how many corporate clients pre-emptively “jumped” during the VA1.0 near death experience?

The last big corp I worked for was still with them from the collapse of AN* thru to pre-Covid (when I left). No idea if they’re still with VA. There would have been some wailing and gnashing of teeth for many regular travellers (including many using EY J to Europe) if they had to start again with QF. Fortunately I kept directing most of my international travel to QF to maintain dual VA WP and QF WP.

*some idiot came up with the great idea of switching from QF to AN around 2000. We had a good 18mths… Going back to QF cap in hand didn’t work.
 
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Yeah, I think as a forum we're quite unrepresentative of the market available to VA.

Velocity as a program and VA as an airline are competing with Qantas and QF, respectively, not directly with any number of better airlines (dozens!) or programs (AAdvantage, Aeroplan, KrisFlyer, Flying Blue, Asia Miles).

Will these changes make earning Velocity status somewhat harder for me personally, as someone who flies mostly for leisure and would do things like judiciously choose low-cost business flights to optimise credits? Yes, absolutely.

Would I earn status any more easily on Qantas? No. And so, my general Oneworld travel isn't credited to Qantas, nor even would I use it for EK now that Aeroplan is an option.

For redemptions, is Velocity worse than Qantas going forward? Probably not, depending on one's use case. Velocity gives you access to QR J (including at the end of the calendar), some SQ J and W, and close to departure, there's plenty of UA transPac J and some NH J as well. Qantas gives you a smattering of JL/AA/AF/KL long-haul J, their own J occasionally if you're lucky, and perhaps some EK with a tremendous cash copay. And for similar distances, Velocity rates are mostly still marginally better than Qantas.

For status, is Velocity worse than Qantas going forward? Probably yes, especially for international travel, if only for the more solid Oneworld alliance benefits you can get on Qantas vs Velocity's bespoke partner arrangements.

For short domestic flights, is VA inferior to QF? No, at least for me. It's generally cheaper and I would have lounge access by Amex even if my status were to lapse.

Do any of these things matter to the SMEs or leisure travellers who are the market I think VA is satisfied to target? Not in the least. They're competing on price.
 
I would think many SMEs are still on VA, although probably in Y otherwise they'd be BFOD.

Many companies have contracts with VA or QF; don't know what are the lengths of terms (i.e. before they can change their minds), but then again I'm not sure how many would switch due to a change in the loyalty proposition.

Yea but there are many many many ways to game BFOD to the carrier of your choice.
 
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