More SG's than PS's?

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A friend has a theory that there are more golds than silvers in the QFF program.. this could be true as the bands are narrower down the bottom end than the top end.

Any thoughts?

And does anyone know the split between nb/ps/sg/wp/other?
 
This would quite an interesting statistic to know from someone truely in the know.
 
I would be extremely surprised. This has been discussed in the past but I cannot find the thread. From memory there are ~60,000 Platinums then followed by Gold then Silver and the finaly the overwhelming majority are Bronze.

The bands are not as narrow as you think. To get from Silver 350SCs/year to Gold 700SCs/year is a huge step. Do not let sites like AFF and Flyertalk fool you into thinking that everyone out there knows about YUPs/KUPs or would even be interesting in maximising their travel with LONEs/DONEs to get to the next status level.

A person I play golf with regularly has made Platinum through point to point work travel but his recent trip to Europe was with Emirates and he has flown *Alliance in the past. He searches for cheapest airfares for personal travel and I think the majority think the same way.
 
The bands are not as narrow as you think. To get from Silver 350SCs/year to Gold 700SCs/year is a huge step.

I think the argument goes that there is only a band of 350SCs for Silvers (before hitting Gold) and a 700SC band for Golds (before hitting Plat).

Personally I don't buy it though. Casual glances at tags on bags (and also at BPs) seems to indicate more Silvers than Golds to me, as do informal surveys of my colleagues.
 
To get from Silver 350SCs/year to Gold 700SCs/year is a huge step.

And to jump from Gold to Platinum is yet another story *sigh*

But as Andy Dufresne said "hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"... :idea:
 
And to jump from Gold to Platinum is yet another story *sigh*

But as Andy Dufresne said "hope is a good thing, maybe the best of things, and no good thing ever dies"... :idea:

Be careful what you hope for. The jump may be big in terms of SCs, but it's an even larger leap in terms of a being a PITA through sitting on various aircraft at ungodly hours, waiting at airports, stressing over missed connections, fighting to get taxis.....and all the other good parts of travelling.
 
I guess it makes sense with SG being only double PS. However WP is quadruple PS. So getting just that bit more to SG could happen commonly, but to get 4x that amount to WP isn't as likely. That being said I'd still say there'd be NB > PS > SG >> WP >>> CL.
 
I would be extremely surprised. This has been discussed in the past but I cannot find the thread. From memory there are ~60,000 Platinums then followed by Gold then Silver and the finaly the overwhelming majority are Bronze.

The bands are not as narrow as you think. To get from Silver 350SCs/year to Gold 700SCs/year is a huge step. Do not let sites like AFF and Flyertalk fool you into thinking that everyone out there knows about YUPs/KUPs or would even be interesting in maximising their travel with LONEs/DONEs to get to the next status level.

A person I play golf with regularly has made Platinum through point to point work travel but his recent trip to Europe was with Emirates and he has flown *Alliance in the past. He searches for cheapest airfares for personal travel and I think the majority think the same way.

I agree that people on sites like this an FT are obviously not the majority of FF'ers. Infact, I actually like it that way as the less people trying to get the most out of travelling, the better it is for the minority of us who are getting the most out of our travels.

Imagine if everyone were taking advantage of tips and tricks that are contained/known within this community - would make it harder for us (as in the FF community) to take advantage of them as everyone else would be doing the same.
 
When Qantas was thinking about going into private hands and they talked about splitting up the frequent flyer side of the business, I read an article that mentioned (i wish I knew where it came from) that there was approximately 10,000 Chairman's Lounge members (in effect Platinum) and another 35,000 to 40,000 Platinum Members out of total at the time of 5.5 million members. That represents at the top end about 0.9 to 1% of members at the top fo the frequent flyer scale. I think that statistic shows just how hard a) it is to attain that status and b) still considerably hard to maintain it. I know I let out a long sigh when i re-qualify as WP, oh that First lounge....

When you look at the percentage it coudl be said that QF do look after their point end members quite well, but it does come at a cost to someone, whether your business, the busines you work for or self funded..
 
I think the argument goes that there is only a band of 350SCs for Silvers (before hitting Gold) and a 700SC band for Golds (before hitting Plat).

Personally I don't buy it though. Casual glances at tags on bags (and also at BPs) seems to indicate more Silvers than Golds to me, as do informal surveys of my colleagues.
I'm not sure that casually glancing at 'tags on bags'
is any value at all really. Who changes their tags when they drop down a level, whether it is permanent or temporary :?:
 
I'm not sure that casually glancing at 'tags on bags'
is any value at all really. Who changes their tags when they drop down a level, whether it is permanent or temporary :?:

Presumably Silvers who have never been Golds would only have access to Silver tags.

Golds who've dropped back to Silvers might still have Gold tags.

But if you see more Silver than Gold tags, that would indicate more Silvers than Golds, even if some of those with Gold tags are actually Silver.
 
Presumably Silvers who have never been Golds would only have access to Silver tags.

Golds who've dropped back to Silvers might still have Gold tags.

But if you see more Silver than Gold tags, that would indicate more Silvers than Golds, even if some of those with Gold tags are actually Silver.
Agreed. Just attempting (poorly) to say it's not quite as simple as it seems.
 
Be careful what you hope for. The jump may be big in terms of SCs, but it's an even larger leap in terms of a being a PITA through sitting on various aircraft at ungodly hours, waiting at airports, stressing over missed connections, fighting to get taxis.....and all the other good parts of travelling.

And to cap it off, the friends, family members etc who still believe that flying is fun and glamorous, despite what you tell them.
 
And to cap it off, the friends, family members etc who still believe that flying is fun and glamorous, despite what you tell them.

they won't believe me if I try... then again I can't convince myself of any negatives of the travel I get to do for work

Dave
 
And to cap it off, the friends, family members etc who still believe that flying is fun and glamorous, despite what you tell them.

There is no fun or glamour in flying <<drains champagne glass, and presses call bell for another>> NO glamour whatsoever....

I'm of the opinion that it is 75% good. The bad parts are as I've already listed, but as soon as, like this morning, I open the curtains onto a beautiful blue-skied Ho Chi Minh City morning, knowing that in an hour or so I'll head up to the Sofitel lounge and be waited on hand and foot by some very lovely ladies, suddenly the pre-midnight departure and the taxi scrum at the airport are forgotten.:D
 
Casual glances at tags on bags (and also at BPs) seems to indicate more Silvers than Golds to me, as do informal surveys of my colleagues.

There seems to be quite a few members of Golden Wing as well based on that method, as well as the odd captains club member :D
 
...like this morning, I open the curtains onto a beautiful blue-skied Ho Chi Minh City morning, knowing that in an hour or so I'll head up to the Sofitel lounge and be waited on hand and foot by some very lovely ladies...:D

Ahhh the Sofitel and HCMC.... lucky cougho :cool:

It's a rainy day(s) in ADL, and I am not complaining...
 
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Be careful what you hope for. The jump may be big in terms of SCs, but it's an even larger leap in terms of a being a PITA through sitting on various aircraft at ungodly hours, waiting at airports, stressing over missed connections, fighting to get taxis.....and all the other good parts of travelling.


that is so the truth.... the glamour....... not

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