Mother and child different surnames

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mrsterryn

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Currently my daughter in law is deliberating changing her surname .
However there is a grandchild on the way which will have my Son surname.
Next year she is planning on travelling overseas with grand child without husband
Is that ever an issue ?
 
There may be some country specific issues. South Africa spring to mind as one where there are special requirements to be met if only one parent is travelling (but that is not a name issue!)
 
Thanks @oz_mark I was wondering about the one parent only travelling as well.
I had heard stories about not permitted to fly unless other parent gave permission
 
Thanks @oz_mark I was wondering about the one parent only travelling as well.
I had heard stories about not permitted to fly unless other parent gave permission
My wife has a different surname to me. She’s had no issues travelling with Miss H without me both domestically and to the US.

For other international trips we’ve always travelled as a trio but have experienced no issues in NZ, Canada, Japan, Indonesia, Singapore, Hong Kong, or any of the Schengen countries we’ve visited.

For Customs & Immi I always keep Miss H with me to minimise the risk of a delay.

I can’t speak for the grandparent scenario, sorry.
 
I remember Royal Brunei needed documentation for a parent travelling solo with a different surname to the child when travelling to the Philippines but no issues if the parent travelling had same surname. From memory I think a full birth certificate was sufficient showing that the parent with the different surname was listed on said birth certificate.

I think Canada may have requirements eg stat dec signed by the parent that is not travelling with the child stating that they give permission for the child to travel to Canada irrespective of what the surname is.

It would just be a matter of checking with the individual embassy or consulate of the country you were travelling to as to what the requirements are if only one parent travelling with the child.
 
There may be some country specific issues. South Africa spring to mind as one where there are special requirements to be met if only one parent is travelling (but that is not a name issue!)

Canada is one of the country that will ask for the letter when one parent travel with kid(s) especially underage without their spouse.

Saudi does it too but only to certain nationalities.
 
No issues for Mrs NoName & NoName Jnr travelling to Singapore & Malaysia.
 
Thank you. The countries are probable Taiwan and Japan..Though Japan is likely done with us and Taiwan with her family
She is hoping to do a lot of travelling while on mat leave however her husband (aka our son ) won't have the leave available for him to travel
Appreciate all the responses
 
Thank you. The countries are probable Taiwan and Japan..Though Japan is likely done with us and Taiwan with her family
She is hoping to do a lot of travelling while on mat leave however her husband (aka our son ) won't have the leave available for him to travel
Appreciate all the responses

I am an Asian by birth and hubby is a Kiwi true and true. We've been married for 22 yrs now and been together for more. There have been lots of cultural clashes in our earlier years of marriage, but we are surviving well.

I don't really understand where your post is going to, I feel that there is more thing you are afraid of apart from just the name of your daughter in law and her travel plan.

From your last reply and I quote "She is hoping to do a lot of travelling while on mat leave however her husband (aka our son ) won't have the leave available for him to travel" sound to me like you are not approving her plan of traveling without your son. If this is true, I can offer you my experience on the similar case.

We (hubby and me) came from so different background, to be honest with you that traveling other places are much easier when he is with me, however, traveling back home (my home) is different. We have different culture and we have to accept that, and learning our culture is taking lots of time. I cried when my husband dared to yell at my sister just because she fed our daughter ice cream past her dinner time and closer to the sleeping time, this is just a small thing happened to us on our earliest visit back my home. That hurt is still with me 21 yrs later no matter how much he apologized that for. We've learn to appreciate the difference, however, to date, we decided that it is easier for me to travel home myself (sometimes with kids) than forcing us to go as a family of 4. If and when he come, it will be lots of warning to just follow the flows than trying to force his opinions. I personally think that this is what kept our marriage last this far.

I apologize if that is not what you think, worry about or want to hear.
 
@Zulaiha Not quite sure where I have posed disapproval of my daughter in law's travelling. However online without nuances can be difficult
:)
This is far from an issue.
My Fed Gov background used to bring up stories of issues with international travel with only one parent . Her surname I was wondering whether that could compound a possible problem
There is nothing more to it than that .
I was just hoping for reassurance , which has been given , on the travelling.
I hope I have allayed your concern
 
@Zulaiha Not quite sure where I have posed disapproval of my daughter in law's travelling. However online without nuances can be difficult
:)
This is far from an issue.
My Fed Gov background used to bring up stories of issues with international travel with only one parent . Her surname I was wondering whether that could compound a possible problem
There is nothing more to it than that .
I was just hoping for reassurance , which has been given , on the travelling.
I hope I have allayed your concern

thanks Mrsterryn for your explanation, as mentioned on my reply that is how I read your post, and I apologize for misreading it.
 
We've had issues in Thailand from the beginning even though we've always travelled together.

The first time they would not let us travel unless we produced daughter's birth certificate which was in checked luggage. Eventually convinced them but that was a horrible ordeal and totally unnecessary.

Now when we go through immigration my daughter goes through with me and not a word is said.
 
Now when we go through immigration my daughter goes through with me and not a word is said.

I thought you were going to say "now when we go through immigration we take the birth certificate in our hand luggage." ;)
 
I thought you were going to say "now when we go through immigration we take the birth certificate in our hand luggage." ;)
The birth certificate is now in the hand luggage but there is no reason whatsoever that Thai immigration need to sight the birth certificate when my daughter has a passport which is all that is required for travel.
 
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I kept my maiden name (for cultural and professional reasons) so it is markedly different to my daughter's surname. I took her to Japan a few years ago when she was 12 and there no issues going through immigration. I had also taken her with me to New Zealand and Fiji earlier and again nil issues. Mr X stays home and looks after the animals so has not joined us on any of our jaunts.
 
This is an interesting topic.. My wife has changed her name on all official documentation EXPECT her passport. She went to change it in the first year of marriage (when it is free), but didn't like her photo, so never followed though with it..
We have been overseas a few times after been married, and there is of course no issue. I just have to remember to use her maiden name when we book flights. However that was before my daughter was born, However I don't think my wife has any plans to fly alone with my daughter. Also my wife's passport will need to be renewed in early 2020, so she can just apply with her married name...:-)
 
The birth certificate is now in the hand luggage but there is no reason whatsoever that Thai immigration need to sight the birth certificate when my daughter has a passport which is all that is required for travel.

Yes, but i thought it would have more been about the time and cost to replace those documents if the bag goes missing?
 
I didn't ever have an issue with my daughters (and never really thought about it to be honest), but I guess to be safe always carry a copy of the birth certificate.
 
A friend in Thailand has to show the birth certificate of her children whenever she flies (domestically) as they have their father's surname. Can't speak for international travel as she hasn't done that yet, but so far, no issues for her in any way domestically - you have to show ID when checking in for *all* flights there.
 
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