My Jetstar Experience

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rugbyskier

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As Canberra is my home airport I haven't had much to do with with Jetstar, in fact my only flight with them was a short Wellington-Auckland flight during the 2011 Rugby World Cup.

I booked Jetstar for travel to Honolulu for the World Vintage Rugby Carnival at the end of September 2012. The carnival started on a Sunday evening and finished the following Saturday, so I booked in October 2011 for flights on the consecutive Sundays. I booked 'Business' as the fare was only marginally more than Qantas and Hawaiian Economy.

Fortunately in March I decided to check my booking and found that Jetstar had cancelled both flights and I was booked onto a flight leaving Sydney a day earlier and returning a day later. I had the displeasure of dealing with the robotic call centre staff in their Manila call centre, with inflexibility combined with an attitude of "I don't give a **** about you and your first-world problem' that was extremely frustrating. I ended cancelling the return flight (with a full refund) and after looking at Qantas and Hawaiian decided to book again on Jetstar and found that the fare ex Honolulu was $300 cheaper than booking it from Australia - that ended up covering most of additional two nights accommodation in Honolulu. I was annoyed that the flight change meant that I lost my preassigned seats but as I later discovered Jetstar's 'assigned seats' are a myth anyway.

I used the online check-in 24 hours out from the SYD-HNL flight and discovered that the seat that I had pre-assigned in March was not there. Fortunately I was first in the online check-in and was able to get it back through the check-in process. I was also pleased that the Qantas check-in staff at Canberra were able to link the two bookings so that I could check my bag through to Honolulu and use the QF inter-terminal transfer.

The flight to Honolulu was quite comfortable. Although it's a similar seat to the Qantas domestic Business (and therefore not lie flat) I was able to get a few hours sleep - getting changed into my Qantas F pjs from an earlier JNB-SYD flight was a good move. The supper meal out of Sydney was quite reasonable and the breakfast before Honolulu was also pleasant. The iPads are good in that you can choose what you want to watch, but the drawback is that it's impossible to watch when you're having your meal as there's insufficient space for both the meal tray and the iPad on your lap or table. The cabin crew were great on the flight - I appreciated the CSM waiting until the movie had finished before collecting my iPad.

The 'pre-assigned' seat farce occurred again for the HNL-SYD return flight. I could only get a aisle seat in the middle, when I had requested a window seat. All of the passengers on that flight were extremely annoyed - a mother was separated from her 10 year old son and a group of four ladies travelling together was spread out across the whole cabin. The check-in agent at Honolulu told me that this happens all the time and they and the cabin crew have to sort out the problem it creates. Apparently Jetstar reservations re-assign the entire Business cabin for the start of the online check-in process. I cannot understand why Jetstar bothers with the 'Select Your Seat' function on the website if they totally ignore it - all they are doing is annoying their customers.

The cabin crew on the Honolulu-Sydney was again quite good. They were friendly, helpful and efficient with the meal service. The return flight was a little less comfortable being in the third row, with a seat in front, and being a day flight. We arrived in Sydney on time and I had no problems making my connection to Canberra.

Would I fly Jetstar again? Only in Business and only if there was no oneworld alternative. I think there are a couple of things that require a major overhaul - they need to get rid of that offshore call centre, it's false economy when they piss off customers, and they need to either make their seat selection process actually work or get rid of it totally.

As for the World Vintage Rugby Carnival, it was a fantastic experience playing teams from around the world. The highlight for me was playing alongside Wallaby legend Stephen Larkham and getting a behind-the-back flick pass from him (I didn't have to call for it, he just knew I was there). Former All Black Greg Somerville also played at the Carnival and he's a great guy too. In addition to the rugby I did a day trip to the Big Island to see Kilaeua volcano, we had a sunset cruise off Waikiki, a luau and went turtle watching on the North Shore of Oahu.
 
Glad the Rugby Carnival went well. The problems you have outlined with Jetstar with regard to seat selection and flight cancellations and the call centre pretty much repeats and summarizes most of the JQ complaints we see here.

If you do an "Advanced Search" from the red bar near the top of the screen and search for Jetstar you will see some of the issues that other people have had.
 
I disagree with the seat selection myth. To me it sounds as if you got fobbed off by the staff at HNL.

I have had one seat assignment changed on a JQ flight, and that was by the CIA who had asked if I wanted an exit seat!

Apart from that, no issues. Seat changes do happen on all types of airlines, so it is not something that is limited to JQ.
 
I agree with mannej. IIRC I haven't had seats reassigned on any of my JQ flights, and there have been a few. You may have just been unlucky - or of course I may have been lucky.
 
When I went to check-in online on both occasions my seat selection had been wiped. Just about all the passengers in the Business cabin for the HNL-SYD were complaining to both the check-in staff and the cabin crew about their seat selection disappearing. The HNL staff tried to resolve the problem for myself and the others - they certainly weren't trying to fob me off. From what they indicated it happens regularly and they appear to be tired of it.
 
In that case it may be the route not the carrier for some reason. I have not flown to HNL; most of my flights are inter-Oz or SIN.
 
When I went to check-in online on both occasions my seat selection had been wiped. Just about all the passengers in the Business cabin for the HNL-SYD were complaining to both the check-in staff and the cabin crew about their seat selection disappearing. The HNL staff tried to resolve the problem for myself and the others - they certainly weren't trying to fob me off. From what they indicated it happens regularly and they appear to be tired of it.

It may well have been a fob off, you don't know (as "it happens often bla bla" sounds like fob off language to me).

As JessicaTam has stated, the system on a whole seems to be ok regarding seat selection.
 
Interesting, I've never had a problem retaining my preselected seat on Jet*. And i usually sit in 2D which is a highly desirable seat and if there was going to be a problem then that would be the seat to fight for.

Re the Manila call centre, again fortunately my experience has been acceptable. As soon as I use very simple English and tell them what I want done in simple steps I am usually successful on the first go.
 
It may well have been a fob off, you don't know (as "it happens often bla bla" sounds like fob off language to me).

As JessicaTam has stated, the system on a whole seems to be ok regarding seat selection.

Whatever :rolleyes:

Is this your modus operandi for people you consider 'newbies', trying to belittle them and
'correct' them? FYI, I've been here since 2003 but started posting again under a new handle.

If this keeps up I'll just go back to Flyer Talk and not bother here.
 
I'll also add that I'm a member of the QFF Advisory Community and raised the issues there. A few of the members verified the issues I raised and the Facilitators have forwarded the concerns onto QFF management.
 
Whatever :rolleyes:

Is this your modus operandi for people you consider 'newbies', trying to belittle them and
'correct' them? FYI, I've been here since 2003 but started posting again under a new handle.

If this keeps up I'll just go back to Flyer Talk and not bother here.

Excuse me, I have not belittled you. I have provided my opinion based on my experience.

If you have an issue with the fact that I don't agree with you, that is your prerogative.
 
Excuse me, I have not belittled you. I have provided my opinion based on my experience.

If you have an issue with the fact that I don't agree with you, that is your prerogative.

Time and time again, a newbie will feel threatened because all the regular members will agree and seem to dismiss their case, despite what they were told at check-in or wherever. This isn't the first time I've seen it happen and wont be the last, and while I don't think you had any ill intent, just re-read it from the view of the "newbie". It seems very dismissive.
 
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Your first statement in response was "I disagree with the seat selection myth. To me it sounds as if you got fobbed off by the staff at HNL."

How is that not patronising? You describe my experience as a myth then you tell me what supposedly happened, when you weren't there at the time.

I can see the signs, you think I was a newbie so that gives you the right to tell me my experience was wrong. This forum has an 'interesting' dynamic - there are so many DYKWIAs on here who think they rule the roost. A similar attitude exists on FlyerTalk but it's not a prevalent as here. It's hardly a welcoming atmosphere for genuine newbies, unlike the skiing and rugby forums I read where peoples' opinions and experiences are more valued (unless they make a fool of themselves).

I have a few friends who are long time contributors to this forum and I value their opinion more highly than someone I don't know coming in with patronising comments because they think I'm inexperienced here.
 
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Interesting. Is that a remunerated role?

Sort of, QFF give you 1,000 points each month that you make at least four contributions (either raising or contributing to online discussions, completing surveys or putting up ideas for brainstorming).
 
Sort of, QFF give you 1,000 points each month that you make at least four contributions (either raising or contributing to online discussions, completing surveys or putting up ideas for brainstorming).

That counts!

Have you seen anything come full circle and successfully implimented as a result of the forums activities?
 
That counts!

Have you seen anything come full circle and successfully implimented as a result of the forums activities?

Yes, the facilitators provide regular updates on what has been happening as a result of the community's activities. Some of the more positive programme changes were market tested with us beforehand. Interestingly, one recent change wasn't brought up in the community before it was introduced.
 
I am not going to get into an argument, but honestly I never did look at your post count before or after I responded.

You made a statement regarding seat selection being a myth, I responded to that based on my experience, to which others have backed it up.

I don't see how disagreeing on a point of view can be seen as patronizing but each to their own.
 
Yes, the facilitators provide regular updates on what has been happening as a result of the community's activities. Some of the more positive programme changes were market tested with us beforehand. Interestingly, one recent change wasn't brought up in the community before it was introduced.

I guess it is an advisory body. Management take responsibility at the end of the day. Similar to a political focus group.
 
I've flown the SYD-HNL route on Jetstar quite a few times over the past few years, and always in StarClass/Business Class. I have always been seated in the seat I had booked myself. I've never really had a problem at all - my only issue is with Jetstar calling it Business Class. The reality is it's a perfectly reasonable Premium Economy.

Not disputing the original poster's experience, but as usual there is always a range of experiences!
 
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