Near miss at Chicago Midway

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Another near miss yesterday? I wonder if this happens more than we realise. Southwest and private jet crossing paths on landing

 
Another near miss yesterday? I wonder if this happens more than we realise. Southwest and private jet crossing paths on landing

I think everything seems to happen more regularly than ever before but not because of frequency but reporting.

Internet and immediate reporting and twitter.
Plus every younger generation seems to think that things have never happened before and the world needs to know their discovery. Hence research that proves things every generation before them already knew.
 
Very close miss and quick go around decision by WN pilots at Chicago Midway today. Looked like the Southwest plane almost had wheels down before they pulled back up and overflew the Flexjet that crossed onto their runway. Seems the Flexjet crossed onto RWY 31C without clearance.


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Another near miss yesterday? I wonder if this happens more than we realise. Southwest and private jet crossing paths on landing

Mid-80s flying BME-PER in a Citation jet. About to put wheels on the runway PER when a light aircraft ventured out onto the runway. Pilot reacted simultaneously putting on the power and pulling the yoke back hard. Felt like we went vertical, though we didn't of-course.
 
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Juan Browne Blancolirio analysis


The Flexjet guy not only disobeyed 'hold short' command that he acknowledged when he was told AND obviously didn't bother looking out the window as he crossed an active runway. Even if you don't think its active, don't you check? JB shows how dozy that pilot was from the outset.
 
I wonder if any of the pilots could tell us if it would be significantly slower/harder for a go around if the wheels are on the ground.
 
Juan Browne Blancolirio analysis


The Flexjet guy not only disobeyed 'hold short' command that he acknowledged when he was told AND obviously didn't bother looking out the window as he crossed an active runway. Even if you don't think its active, don't you check? JB shows how dozy that pilot was from the outset.

Taxiing on runways is a bad idea, here it’s not supposed to be done when there’s an available taxiway even if less convenient.

There’s no standard holding point markings between the runways (just the normal runway side stripe markings) and it can be easy to become disoriented especially with two parallel runways close together as these were.

My generous observation is he probably through the first runway (31L) was a taxiway (that runway is very narrow, about the same width as a taxiway) and thought the 31C runway was the one he was cleared to cross. I’d assume he was not a local pilot so not overly familiar with the airfield.

Possibly a better idea to keep the aircraft off the runways and give the cross for both runways together considering they are so close.
 
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