Since Amex is the only way to easily earn Avios in Australia (once Citibank is shut down by NAB & the Qatar option disappears) & you cannot churn Amex cards regularly, it is interesting to think how many people will be able to realistically scoop up QR redemptions in Australia.
This comment assumes the Citibank branding will be shut down, I'm not sure this is true. Westpac operates multiple brands here in OZ and shows no signs of shutting them down, in fact I'm sure some consumers are blissfully unaware of the true ownership and maybe Westpac want it that way.
It will be. Read NAB's latest half-yearly financial results. To be all done and dusted by December 2024. Just like they did with 86 400. Remember them?
), you can always leverage the Avios Buy promos via “family” accounts which flow through to QR family accounts.That's a fair point. I hadn't thought of people overpaying (at least in my opinion) for Avios by buying them from BA directly.BA sell Avios with somewhat regular promotions which one can use to “scoop up” QR redemptions very easily and with immediate effect. And BA also offer their annual subscription via monthly point deposits. And finally, if you really want to go next level (beyond level nine
I think in 2022 NAB stated that ‘integration will occur over a 2-3 year period. In the meantime Citibank will continue to operate as a seperate standalone business’
I've already given you the latest source of information on when integration will occur. You can look it up for yourself if you doubt me.
None of which have Qatar as a transfer partner.
Currently! It appears Qatar have decided they do want Australian business so would be far from surprised by Qatar negotiating this with other card issuers. We shouldn't assume everything goes against us, my experience with FF over many years is that whenever one option gets removed, its not long until another opens up.
Sure, anything is possible. But you clearly have not been following the trend of the credit card market in Australia if you think it is wise not to assume everything goes against us. Even with Amex's recent addition of Qatar, it was in exchange for a devaluation of their most valuable transfer partner.
I agree with the maths and conclusion…. I’ve got $1750 annual fee and absolutely can’t justify it.
i have been booking lots to europe and look every day at 10:00 when released and see only advantage
This may be the bigger problem than earning points, I have to think AFF/FT/Ozbargain may be part of the problem in introducing many more people to the ‘FF game’. I don’t have a problem earning points and have plenty across multiple programs. But using many of those points at a reasonable cost is much more difficult, not least because there are many more people with lots of points out there. So, all in all, not unhappy about those who spruik the line that FF programs are not worth it.
I agree but many people either never accumulate a lot of points, spend on economy fares, or just spend 1m QFF points on a flight (a guy at work did it
)Certainly agree many are not sophisticated frequent flyers but they are still in the market and increasing demand and at least some are taking the advice here, on Pointhacks etc.I agree but many people either never accumulate a lot of points, spend on economy fares, or just spend 1m QFF points on a flight (a guy at work did it
I haven't done it, but I hear the bonus doesn't come straight away on FB
