New Qantas Domestic nonstops

[Standby]

A mate who works the mines in WA (but lives in Sydney) mentioned yesterday Qantas are commencing non-stops from SYD to Karratha in Jun (on a thurs) and from MEL to Karratha from May (on a monday).Really only the place you fly to if you have to but indicates the miners must be ramping up post GFC.There is already a BNE Karratha operating
This is on top of the new QF CBRDRW nonstop that started recently...Good to see QF growing and its not all JQ for a change!

 

[albatross710]

Great news for post-GFC. Also indicates the scarcity of workers in WA as the direct flights open up a a new pool of employees. People can live east cost and work west coast.

 

[Oneworldplus2]

Interesting.

So, even with the explosion of work about to start in W.A. it looks like the PER QP won't be busting at the seems.

PER-BWB is where alot of action is also going to start to take place this year, 763miles, 30SC in full whY.
The company l'm working for, uses a travel company to purchase staff tickets and they are mostly booked into Red eDeals or Super Savers, which only earn Discount whY SC.



FULL whY

SYD-PER 2041miles 40SC
PER-KTA 775 miles 30SC
Return, 140SC.

SYD-KTA 2289 miles 40SC
Return, 80SC.

MEL-PER 1681miles 40SC
PER-KTA 775miles 30SC
Return 140SC

MEL-KTA 2046mles 40SC
Return, 80SC



Guess we just have to wait and see...

 

[codash1099]

Great news for post-GFC. Also indicates the scarcity of workers in WA as the direct flights open up a a new pool of employees. People can live east cost and work west coast.

Also indicates looming problems with Perth airport capacity during morning peaks on FIFO days.

 

[Flashback]

Also indicates looming problems with Perth airport capacity during morning peaks on FIFO days.

Shift change is normally Tues/Wed.. so interesting days for the flights. Guess it caters for the extra time required to come over.

 

[markis10]

Also indicates looming problems with Perth airport capacity during morning peaks on FIFO days.

I am not sure thats really a factor, I suspect the direct flights have been on the wishlist for a while once BNE-KTA proved to be a winner, now that QF have the 767 capacity coming back to the domestic legs it frees up the 738s for new opportunities.

 

[harvyk]

This is on top of the new QF CBRDRW nonstop that started recently...Good to see QF growing and its not all JQ for a change!

Yes the defense special...

I think they realised that there where quite a lot of people actually flying between those two cities, and as JQ have no interest in CBR (beyond reminding us that they exist) it really was going to be QF or nothing.

Besides, if QF didn't do it, DJ would have stepped in before to long (like they have with CBR-HBA and CBR-TSV)

 

[cosi]

This article appeared in "The West" 27/2/10 which explains the problems Perth Aiport has on FIFO days.

Qantas is to bypass Perth with new direct services from Melbourne and Sydney to the mining and energy resources hub of Karratha.
The flights, which will start in May, come after _The West Australian _revealed last week that resources companies were planning to fly workers direct from the Eastern States to resource centres because of difficulties in getting take-off slots at Perth Airport during peak times.
According to the Chamber of Minerals and Energy of WA, up to 27,000 new jobs are at risk over the next three years.
Last week, three resources giants said they were looking at altering their fly-in, fly-out strategy because of limitations of early morning take-off slots at Perth Airport between Tuesday and Thursday.
The airport faces major capacity challenges between 5.30am and 7am midweek, a critical period - from a roster perspective - for the workforce movement requirements of the fly-in, fly-out operations.
The airport is not planning to build a second parallel runway to relieve congestion for 20 years.
Last week, Perth Airport chief executive Brad Geatches said "to date" the airport had been able to handle the demands of airlines during the morning peak period.
The airport has claimed air traffic control improvements to be made by Airservices Australia and high-speed taxiway exits will "significantly improve" its ability to handle the peaks.
However, an Airservices Australia spokesman said "the improvements would be insignificant".
Perth-based Skywest Airlines is also looking at a Melbourne-Karratha service after it gets its first long-range Airbus A320 in July. It recently re-launched a weekly Melbourne-Kalgoorlie service.
Qantas already operates between Brisbane and Karratha.
The new services will allow resource companies to source labour from other areas and give North-West residents direct access to Sydney and Melbourne.
Rob Gurney, group executive Qantas Airlines commercial, said yesterday the airline was "committed to supporting the increasing demand for air travel in and out of Western Australia during this period of strong economic growth".
"The new schedules have been developed in consultation with key customers," Mr Gurney said.

Qantas to bypass Perth for mine hub - The West Australian

 

[samiam]

Great News! Perth QP is a joke atm.

 

[straitman]

Great News! Perth QP is a joke atm.

... and that is on a good day :!:

Let's see how it scrubs up after its makeover.

 

[Sprucegoose]

Great News! Perth QP is a joke atm.

i mean there are two classes of people trouncing through the joint. the ones with fluros and the ones without.

 

[Flashback]

i mean there are two classes of people trouncing through the joint. the ones with fluros and the ones without.

I find that comment quite offensive. Often, when doing work for my clients up north I need to wear PPE when doing day trips up there. What are you implying about what class I am?

Are IT consultants a lower class than a suit wearing *******?

 

[Mal]

Are IT consultants a lower class than a suit wearing *******?

The sad thing is many fluoro vest wearers earn more money than most people in IT will ... And even earn more than many of the suit wearing high flyers.

Perhaps that is what I should be doing instead of IT.

I was chatting to an ex-sparkie who lived in Perth recently... the rates of pay he was telling me about were very high. He did leave - to end up being a bar guy in London and competing with ex-EU qualified electricians...

 

[Flashback]

The sad thing is many fluoro vest wearers earn more money than most people in IT will ... And even earn more than many of the suit wearing high flyers.

Perhaps that is what I should be doing instead of IT.

I was chatting to an ex-sparkie who lived in Perth recently... the rates of pay he was telling me about were very high. He did leave - to end up being a bar guy in London and competing with ex-EU qualified electricians...

I guess the point I was trying to make is that it's a mixture of blue and white collar workers that wear the PPE, not just blue collar

 

[Mal]

I guess the point I was trying to make is that it's a mixture of blue and white collar workers that wear the PPE, not just blue collar

Yeah that's correct. I'm aware of another high flying member here also slips into the PPE gear at times as part of his work.

Appearances are deceiving. Stereotypes are also bad.

 

[Oneworldplus2]

You'd be very surprised at how much people earn out here in the mines, or doing FIFO work.
There are guys out at the camp l am at currently who just work the bobcat and are on over $150k p/a, 4 weeks on, 1 week off.
I heard of another guy who used to do sub-divisions and now operates mobile plant equipment, is on over $220k p.a., roster is 8 days on, 6 days off plus 4 weeks holidays a year.

 

[samiam]

Fluoro fashion-wear aside - the actual QP was cramped like a sardine can with all sorts of ppls... ... was literally standing room only.

I don't mind who's in there - as long as there's enough room for all.

To make it more comfortable, it's either a matter of increasing the size of the QP or reducing the number of people - I'll take either option.

Actually, I'll take both!

 

[Warks]

Speaking of money...

The front page of the Wet Australian last week had the headline story about the pay deal for workers on the Gorgon project on Barrow Island where the agreed minimum wage for labourers was $150K. They did say it was a for a 70 hour week though. While that sounds like a lot of hours the reality is that there's bugger all to do if you knock off at 3pm anyway so you might as well earn more money. I say this as someone who worked on a remote farm in my early days. No point working less than a 10 hour day, what are you going to do when you knock off?
I think it also said it was 21 days on, 9 days off but I may be wrong. Three weeks straight without a day off is hard in anyone's language.

 

[Will]

To make it more comfortable, it's either a matter of increasing the size of the QP or reducing the number of people - I'll take either option.

As long as you don't fall into one of the categories of people to be excluded, right?

 

[markis10]

Pity the plans for a business lounge were dropped in PER, that might have solved a few problems, then again PER does have a long way to go in many areas as far as the customer viewpoint goes.