New Zealand records Fresh cases of COVID19

[Pushka]

No apparently genomic sequencing shows its linked to previous outbreaks. Can't find the link sorry.

Then I think that confirms that it has been bubbling quietly along then. Until someone got enough symptoms to think to test.

 

[moa999]

This article suggests the opposite - genomic testing shows it hasn't been bubbling and us more likely to be from Melbourne, with a cold storage facility suspected

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[Pushka]

This article suggests the opposite - genomic testing shows it hasn't been bubbling and us more likely to be from Melbourne, with a cold storage facility suspected

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Still under investigation I think.

 

[drron]

This article suggests the opposite - genomic testing shows it hasn't been bubbling and us more likely to be from Melbourne, with a cold storage facility suspected

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The flaw in that theory is the company says no freight went from their Melbourne plant to their NZ plant.
It is just possible the 2 plants received supplies from the same original source but then you are stretching the story considerably.
We are told the Victorian cases are linked to the hotel quarantine breaches by genomic testing.
The only genomic testing I have seen was that it could be linked to either an Australian or UK source.

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So seeing the article says they have identified the branch of the genomic tree my thoughts would be it should be known if it was the same as our "second wave".

 

[TomVexille]

The conspiracy theory I heard this morning was that one if the family members snuck into a quarantine hotel to visit her boyfriend who was recently deported from Australia

 

[jakeseven7]

Could have snuck in via quarantine weeks and weeks ago, asymptomatic for weeks and weeks, got missed in testing (testing isn’t perfect) and then just hit someone with symptoms.
It won’t ever be stopped. Doesn’t matter really.

 

[Pushka]

The conspiracy theory I heard this morning was that one if the family members snuck into a quarantine hotel to visit her boyfriend who was recently deported from Australia

That is a real juicy one. Rather like the AFL player who had an unauthorised visit from his girlfriend in the Perth Hub and who has now been banned for the season.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

This article suggests the opposite - genomic testing shows it hasn't been bubbling and us more likely to be from Melbourne, with a cold storage facility suspected

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I posted earlier that Americold did not believe that its Melbourne Facility could be the source. Plus none of the experts believe it is likely that Covid 19 could be transmitted this way even if there wasa connection between the Melboune and NZ Facilities which there is not.

Americold have now posted more detail. In short there has been no deliveries from Melbourne to NZ since the Melbourne Facility had Covid 19 cases in staff.


The managing director of Americold international says he can "completely rule out" any suggestion that Auckland's Covid-19 cluster was caused by freight from his Melbourne factory.

Americold managing director Richard Winnall said the company's Melbourne site - which had two workers test positive for Covid-19 last month - has not shipped anything to Auckland for "months and months".


"We can completely rule out transmission through that speculation on freight. It's just not possible because there is no freight or supply chain connecting those two properties [Mt Wellington and Melbourne]."

However, director-general of health Ashley Bloomfield said earlier today the Ministry of Health was still undertaking genomic testing to determine any link between the Melbourne Americold facility and the Auckland outbreak.

Bloomfield said testing from the surface of the Mt Wellington Americold facility was being processed today.

"I have also had contact from my counterpart in Victoria who has linked me with their lab there, that is doing some genome sequencing on some [Covid-19] cases of employees in an Americold cool store there in Melbourne," Bloomfield said.

"Just again to see if there is any possible linkage there, so we are looking at that possibility, it's part of the overall puzzle and we are leaving no stone unturned."

But Winnall said his Melbourne facility had informed him they had no record of shipping to the Mt Wellington site.


"In fact, for months and months [there has been no freight between Melbourne and Auckland]. I can't tell you how long other than my Melbourne facility has confirmed they have no record of shipping to that Mt Wellington facility."

Winnall also said Americold has undertaken its own investigation of their two Melbourne workers who tested positive for Covid-19 three weeks ago and they considered that investigation now closed.

The facts of that are we've got a closed investigation. An old case now in our Melbourne facility where we had – some three weeks ago now – two employees that had been confirmed with Covid," Winnall said.

"We went through a similar investigation process and we've now confirmed that we had no evidence of transmission at the site, that that didn't grow into a cluster.
"We believe that was just two employees that contracted Covid-19 from outside the workplace, that happened to be employees of ours.
"Obviously we went through a complete investigation with the department of health in Australia in that regard, and that is now effectively a closed case, and there's no further risk or probabilities on that."

Winnall said Ministry of Health staff were still at the Mt Wellington site today and they were yet to know when they could clean and reopen it.
The Americold international managing director said they had identified a workforce of 33, including direct employees and other contractors - who were being tested for Covid-19 from their Mt Wellington site.

Of that 33, nine had tested positive for Covid-19, eight test results were still pending, and the rest were negative. None of the nine positive Americold workers were in hospital.

Winnall also said all the other close contacts of the Mt Wellington site tested had come back negative.
However, in some good news for the world's largest cold storage freight business, Winnall said they have been given the all-clear from the Ministry of Health to reopen their Auckland Airport site.

"We have now received as of late last night every single result related to employees and or other contractors at that site. They've come back all negative and we've been given the clear to reopen that facility," he said.

"Today we're going through and doing a precautionary clean and we'll resume normal operations again on Monday morning. That's an excellent result."
The Herald contacted the Ministry of Health for a response to Winnall's comments but referred back to Bloomfield's press conference at 1pm today, and would not elaborate further.

Covid mystery: Americold boss adamant virus didn't come to NZ from Melbourne

Americold director reveals their Melbourne site had not shipped to Auckland 'for months'.

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[lovetravellingoz]

13 new cases in NZ. Update from Ministry of Health. .

 

[lovetravellingoz]

* Cases previously assigned to this DHB have been transferred to another.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

The conspiracy theory I heard this morning was that one if the family members snuck into a quarantine hotel to visit her boyfriend who was recently deported from Australia

The NZ Gov has come out strongly today to state that this rumour has no substance, and moreso that it is a baseless malicious attack on the individual concerned.

 

[Hillbilly64]

Then I think that confirms that it has been bubbling quietly along then. Until someone got enough symptoms to think to test.

Sorry that should have said "isnt"

They are currently doing sequencing of employees in a Melbourne cool store to see if that is the origin

 

[lovetravellingoz]

Sorry that should have said "isnt"

They are currently doing sequencing of employees in a Melbourne cool store to see if that is the origin

As noted earlier in this thread, Americold have stated that there has been no movement between between the Melbourne and NZ facilty. So unless the management is not telling the truth that will not be a transmission link as there is no person or freight to carry the virus.

 

[TomVexille]

The NZ Gov has come out strongly today to state that this rumour has no substance, and moreso that it is a baseless malicious attack on the individual concerned.

As I said, conspiracy theory

 

[Hillbilly64]

As noted earlier in this thread, Americold have stated that there has been no movement between between the Melbourne and NZ facilty. So unless the management is not telling the truth that will not be a transmission link as there is no person or freight to carry the virus.

Saw that ...they are still testing regardless.

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[lovetravellingoz]

Saw that ...they are still testing regardless.

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Yes this has already been posted multiple times in the thread already including by myself.

 

[lovetravellingoz]

It looks like in NZ that they may have been a little too complacent about CV 19 not coming back... (just as was/is the case in many aged care facilities in Australia).

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My bolding.​

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After an independent review was conducted following the deadly Rosewood Cluster in Christchurch where 11 people died, a recommendation was made to complete processes for PPE supply, stock management, and guidance. But this wouldn't happen until January next year.​

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"Those time frames need to be brought forward. We need to have action on PPE supply right now, we can't wait until January 2021," says Simon Wallace, CEO of the NZ Aged Care Association.​

Concerns over COVID-19 testing, PPE supply as number of community cases rises

The Health Minister says New Zealanders need to be listening to reliable sources of information.

www.newshub.co.nz

 

[cambriamarsh]

The conspiracy theory I heard this morning was that one if the family members snuck into a quarantine hotel to visit her boyfriend who was recently deported from Australia

Since confirmed to be incorrect by the minister

 

[jakeseven7]

It looks like in NZ that they may have been a little too complacent about CV 19 not coming back... (just as was/is the case in many aged care facilities in Australia).

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My bolding.​

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After an independent review was conducted following the deadly Rosewood Cluster in Christchurch where 11 people died, a recommendation was made to complete processes for PPE supply, stock management, and guidance. But this wouldn't happen until January next year.​

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"Those time frames need to be brought forward. We need to have action on PPE supply right now, we can't wait until January 2021," says Simon Wallace, CEO of the NZ Aged Care Association.​

Concerns over COVID-19 testing, PPE supply as number of community cases rises

The Health Minister says New Zealanders need to be listening to reliable sources of information.

www.newshub.co.nz

Sounds like NSW

 

[kiwitripper64]

Oops, it was interesting watching the news about aged care facilities. Some of these facilities have been proactive and now have a good store of PPE. Some Health Boards are more generous with providing ppe, and some aged care facilities are screaming they have nothing and are getting no help.
Government have now placed all aged care facilities in Full lockdown.
So, of course, the news stations have found a few middle aged people complaining it’s not fair that they can’t visit their loved ones. Which is not strictly true. Gran is allowed to leave and live at the family home if that’s what they want. No one seems to have taken this option.