Obtaining your international arrival and departure history

[coles525]

Planning on getting this done tomorrow in the Melbourne CBD location. Form 424A has been already filled in, with a co-signature (mum) for when I was a little one!

Hope they understand!

 

[cirqueboy]

This is really neat!

Dumb question but is there something similar to this in the States?

Saw this yesterday on FT: https://i94.cbp.dhs.gov/I94/request.html

Tracks your US entry and exit back to five years. However, it only lists on one page, so for me because of quite alot of transits I can only see back to June 2012.

Still a neat tool though and especially helpful for the US Visa process when the memory is a bit shady due to transits

 

[MrHyde]

I finally submitted my movement record document and got the results today, 11 pages of information covering just over 150 flight movements. They go all the way back to 1981 when I made my first entry into Australia on TG1983.

Now onto the next step of trying to figure out which port did I come from or which port did I go to and any other information I can on the flights taken.

the process with Dept was straightforwards, fill out Form 1359 and submit at counter with proof of identity. Took 5 days to get the response.

 

[Archphoto]

Anyone tried to obtain this from OS? I'd actually like to see my own records too; if I send a request via the AU Consulate here in BKK, would that be acceptable?

 

[MrHyde]

The form says that if you are OS, to direct the form to the nearest Australian mission; so sending it to the Consulate in BKK should work.

 

[Archphoto]

Got my movement details today via email; some of these I had forgotten!! The "Port" has me confused a lot though: EA and TU? Thinking TU is Tullamarine, but EA has me really stumped.

 

[Deleted member 29185]

Got my movement details today via email; some of these I had forgotten!! The "Port" has me confused a lot though: EA and TU? Thinking TU is Tullamarine, but EA has me really stumped.

EA = Eagle Farm (BNE)

 

[Archphoto]

Thanks for that - in all my years of flying, I had no idea that was Brisbane Airport's full name.

 

[Deleted member 29185]

Thanks for that - in all my years of flying, I had no idea that was Brisbane Airport's full name.

I don't think it is. Eagle Farm is/was the suburb that hosted the airport and locals referred to it simply as Eagle Farm (I guess to differentiate it from Archerfield, the other main Brisbane airport). I think this habit was fairly common with Tullamarine, Essendon and Avalon being the locations of the airports in and around Melbourne and Mascot being the suberb hosting SYD. In fact at Mascot train station, there are even signs stating "if you are travelling to the airport, do NOT alight here" (or text to that effect) so obviously many Sydneysiders still refer to the airport as "Mascot".

I personally think Eagle Farm is a fabulous name for an airport as it tends to suggest mastery of flying. I'd be worried coming into land to an airport called "Bee Hive" though.:mrgreen:

 

[Archphoto]

Interesting, thanks for the info; makes me wonder why they don't just use the Airport code instead? (ADL, BNE, SYD etc)

 

[Himeno]

Interesting, thanks for the info; makes me wonder why they don't just use the Airport code instead? (ADL, BNE, SYD etc)

IATA airport codes can change. Locations generally don't.
Though the Australian ICAO airport codes are still based on the old 4 AU FIR (Perth, Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane) system instead of the current 2 FIR (Melbourne, Brisbane) system.

 

[Danger]

Would you expect that the Australian government would have a record, or at least be able to obtain a record, of all the countries an Australian citizen has ever travelled to, including dates of entry and exit?

 

[Himeno]

Would you expect that the Australian government would have a record, or at least be able to obtain a record, of all the countries an Australian citizen has ever travelled to, including dates of entry and exit?

Possibly some amount. It would likely only be for places where the passport was scanned and from countries which have data sharing agreements with Australia.

 

[RooFlyer]

Would you expect that the Australian government would have a record, or at least be able to obtain a record, of all the countries an Australian citizen has ever travelled to, including dates of entry and exit?

Having done the obtaining immigration records thing, and investigated quite closely what was available, I'm pretty sure that that the govt would not have a compiled record of where you've been. There is no way for them to know say, if you travelled from Sth Africa to Kenya to Tanzania; or within Schengen Europe. Maybe in this world of electronic data matching and sharing, it might exist in some deep database, but I doubt it. Most countries don't record you leaving the country (including the USA) and in Europe, there are no records of movement within the Schengen countries.

I doubt that until recently (?5 yrs) they even capture electronically where you are flying to or from when leaving / returning to Australia.

Now, if you ask about the Russian government, that's another story! To get a Russian tourist or humanitarian visa at least, you have top give them a 10 year travel history, including dates!! :shock: I ran out of space after only 4 years though.

 

[andymoo]

Probably a stupid question, but will Form 1359 cover all my entries/exits since my first entry, regardless of citizenship/passports? I never knew it was possible to access this sort of information (or that the records even existed!), and have always wanted to know exactly how my family got out here when we moved over in 1992. Nobody seems to have any clue, except that it was "on a jumbo jet".

And following on from that, will going down the Form 424A route to access my passenger cards work without all my old passport details? I suspect that my parents still have that sort of stuff in a box somewhere, but I'm not sure I care enough to go to that much effort. What sort of information/request does one put in the "Documents/Information" section of the form?

Thank you!

 

[MrHyde]

When I recently got my history, it contained all my entries/exit across my previous citizenship and previous two non-Australian passports.

 

[Deleted member 29185]

I like the concept of logging my flights into a program because as each year passes, I do note my memory is not improving any!

So this thread pretty much covers out of/into Australia which is good. Does anyone have suggestions about intra Aussie sectors? I know there is a way of tricking Velocity into retrieving data, but what about QF, AN, TN, YM etc? Any ideas?

 

[andymoo]

Awesome, thanks a lot!

 

[markis10]

Though the Australian ICAO airport codes are still based on the old 4 AU FIR (Perth, Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane) system instead of the current 2 FIR (Melbourne, Brisbane) system.

No they are not, the first letter is Y for Australia and then the decode after that is for an individual airport, the CTR airports are prefixed with a S in the case of Sydney for instance but their are plenty of old NSW FIR airports without a S prefix. THE FIR basis was in place when A was the country code for Aus, and Sydney was ASSY

 

[RooFlyer]

I like the concept of logging my flights into a program because as each year passes, I do note my memory is not improving any!

So this thread pretty much covers out of/into Australia which is good. Does anyone have suggestions about intra Aussie sectors? I know there is a way of tricking Velocity into retrieving data, but what about QF, AN, TN, YM etc? Any ideas?

Interesting idea, but I suspect the 'privacy' bug would rear its head.

If they have the info, they would want to identify you and part if that would probably be the credit card or method of payment in each case. I could probably resurrect all my cc numbers for the past 5 or 8 years, but before that, when I would want the flight details, I would be struggling. YMMV of course.