OLCI - What's the point? Shocking seat selection

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Enough free time to care which seat I am sitting in.

There are glitches in the current/new system and if you are not quick off the mark then cute medical students with QF Gold status can end up in heavily sought after Platinum seats in economy. ;)

Never mind SG's, even pax with NB status can get a crack at 23E so I can't work that one out!
 
There are glitches in the current/new system and if you are not quick off the mark then cute medical students with QF Gold status can end up in heavily sought after Platinum seats in economy. ;)

Yep, I had an interesting glitch today. Seat selected at T-79:56, for the usual 738. Every seat in rows 4 and 5 were open. :shock: Quickly grabbed 4F. :cool: Then redid the seat selection to find that only 4B/C were still open. Had expert flyer going on the iphone at the same time checked the seat map to find only 4F was showing as taken (my seat) and the others were blocked.

So there seemed to be a brief window when every seat was open, before some blocks were reapplied. :confused:
Great timing on my part, good thing SWMBO rang at that point otherwise I might have been doing some work. ;)
 
Had an interesting experience with this tonight also... I was sitting reading and then remembered that T-80 was at 9am this morning. (it was 10pm) I'm flying with a mate BNE-LAX (also a QP NB) so I was hoping for 2 seats near the front, pref bulkhead as we're both quite tall.

27E and 27F were open and there were no other pairs available in the "mini cabin" which occurs on the 2 class 747. Expertflyer also showed everything else as blocked or occupied in the front section. More than happy with these, I selected 27E for myself and quickly looked up my friend's booking ref (long story) to change his seat also.

Then... the magic happened.

Whether benevolent faeries were prancing through the server, sprinkling fairy dust through the hard drives, or sheer luck, or God looking out for me, 26B and 26C were now open. Not daring to believe what I was seeing, I quickly grabbed 26B for my friend and rushed back to my own booking, hoping that 26C would be open for me also.
Happily, it did, and I grabbed 26C.

If it's any consolation though, I'm not a medical student :P

But I can't for the life of me work out what just happened. Although it may have been a random fluke, I wonder if the seating system is designed to keep a "couple's set" (i.e. 2 seats next to each other), open in the restricted section as much as possible but only one set at a time? This would explain why, after taking 1 seat of a "set," another "set" became available, allowing me to book into it. I'd go and experiment with it but i'm too afraid of losing my nice legroom for thursday now :P
 
But I can't for the life of me work out what just happened. Although it may have been a random fluke, I wonder if the seating system is designed to keep a "couple's set" (i.e. 2 seats next to each other), open in the restricted section as much as possible but only one set at a time? This would explain why, after taking 1 seat of a "set," another "set" became available, allowing me to book into it. I'd go and experiment with it but i'm too afraid of losing my nice legroom for thursday now :P

When I checked at T-80 I originally had 5A, then went back and nabbed 4A instead, however it hadn’t shown before I moved up a little closer.
 
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T-71hr, got 4C BNE-SYD. Hadnt looked prior to that (sleeping!)

The return hasnt opened yet, will see what i get!
 
I'm getting row 30 on a 767 when I book but inside T-80 I'm able to pick up row 23-24 now which I never could get near as a PS so the status change to SG has made a difference. Flipping new SG card hasn't arrived yet though.
 
Think I might share my experiences from last week... I'm currently a QCBR, and, bought a V class ticket from SIN - SYD via MEL at T-6 (very late, unplanned trip), returning 5 days later, in class L.

I made it to check-in at T-1. There were no aisle seats were available at all on the SIN-MEL leg (QF10 operated by a 744), and was allocated 62J. I then proceeded to the QC, and asked them to have a look as well. Again, nothing. Then, when the boarding call was made (approx 30min before departure), I asked them once again, and they were able to put me into 70J (one of the 2-seaters at the back). To my surprise, 70K was empty, and looking around me, there weren't any other spare seats.

On the return flights SYD-BNE-SIN, I did OLCI at T-44. I was allocated 13C on the 738 (exit row) to BNE (QF518), and then I had the choice of 23J on the A333 to SIN (QF51), which I promptly selected and checked-in. Both flights were quite full.
 
Yep, I had an interesting glitch today. Seat selected at T-79:56, for the usual 738. Every seat in rows 4 and 5 were open. :shock: Quickly grabbed 4F. :cool: Then redid the seat selection to find that only 4B/C were still open. Had expert flyer going on the iphone at the same time checked the seat map to find only 4F was showing as taken (my seat) and the others were blocked.

So there seemed to be a brief window when every seat was open, before some blocks were reapplied. :confused:
Great timing on my part, good thing SWMBO rang at that point otherwise I might have been doing some work. ;)

On my upcoming BNE-TSV 738 flight, at T-81 I was in the only allocated seat: 6C. Seats in rows 4 and 5 were blocked out. Trying for 4C or 4D, I missed T-80 by five mintues. At T-79:55 the seat map looked like this! :shock:

Why leave the back of the plane empty?

seat map.JPGseat map 2.JPG
 
Sometimes it's not T-80 when the seat map "opens up", it may bt T-74 or T-69.

Keep looking every few hours.
 
a quick update on my post, i may have selected 26C, however when i checked in, i was pleased to see that I had instead been allocated a premium seat 36D. Now immediately i was a little confused, because this was behind my original seat... it wasn't til I fired up the laptop in the QP that i realised the flight had been changed to one of the new 3 class 747's. http://www.qantas.com.au/infodetail/flying/inTheAir/ourAircraft/744-56J40PY275Y.pdf
 
On my upcoming BNE-TSV 738 flight, at T-81 I was in the only allocated seat: 6C. Seats in rows 4 and 5 were blocked out. Trying for 4C or 4D, I missed T-80 by five mintues. At T-79:55 the seat map looked like this! :shock:

Why leave the back of the plane empty?

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Now that OCLI has opened for the flight, many of the 'occupied' seats are showing as free. It seems that on very empty flights the seat allocation computer 'blocks' many seats for weight distiribution reasons (according to info from check-in staff).
 
Now that OCLI has opened for the flight, many of the 'occupied' seats are showing as free. It seems that on very empty flights the seat allocation computer 'blocks' many seats for weight distiribution reasons (according to info from check-in staff).

It's not so much a 'seat allocation computer' but a person in load control that blocks forward seats for trim purposes which is the weight and balance of the aircraft.

This often happen within T-80 hours as sometimes you will see a couple of seats occupied like 4A & 5D with the rest of the seats around them blocked by LOCO.
 
It's not so much a 'seat allocation computer' but a person in load control that blocks forward seats for trim purposes which is the weight and balance of the aircraft.

This often happen within T-80 hours as sometimes you will see a couple of seats occupied like 4A & 5D with the rest of the seats around them blocked by LOCO.


Yeh, and the cheque in the post. Sorry love, thats just total cough at T-80. Made a similar post on a 'DeathStar' management posting that claimed the same sort of bollocks. Aeroplanes of this size do not have the weight and balance issues of a bloody DC3!
 
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Yeh, and the cheque in the post. Sorry love, thats just total cough at T-80. Made a similar post on a 'DeathStar' management posting that claimed the same sort of bollocks. Aeroplanes of this size do not have the weight and balance issues of a bloody DC3!
Stealth,

Attacking, patronising posts such as yours are inappropriate as I'm sure you are aware. Not only that but you are wrong.

All aircraft have weight and balance issues which are easy to resolve by proactive work such as blocking and unblocking seats as required.

I have no personal knowledge whether they do it specifically at T-80 or not but knowing ozbeachbabe's background I am inclined to believe her.
 
Aeroplanes of this size do not have the weight and balance issues of a bloody DC3!

At what size does an aircraft no longer have a center of gravity? Just I'd like too know when Newtonian physics no longer apply. :p
 
Aeroplanes of this size do not have the weight and balance issues of a bloody DC3!

Can you explain why they don't? My pilot training taught me that EVERY aircraft has weight and balance issues. Maybe my instructor was wrong? :confused:
 
From AC 91-23A - PILOT'S WEIGHT AND BALANCE HANDBOOK
CHAPTER 7 - CONTROL OF LOADING: LARGE AIRCRAFT The principles of weight and balance which have been discussed in previous chapters apply to large aircraft used by the air carriers and commercial operators as well as to small aircraft used by general aviation pilots and operators. The general concept of weights, arms, and moments apply regardless of aircraft size. The location of the c.g. can always be found by dividing total moments by total weight.
Large aircraft have the same dangerous flight characteristics as small aircraft when weight and balance limits are exceeded. It is not safe to assume that a large aircraft, because of its apparent abundance of engine power and spacious passenger and cargo compartments, cannot be loaded in an adverse manner. Any aircraft can be overloaded or loaded out of balance if weight and balance control procedures are not followed.
Aircraft which have a large number of passenger seats potentially possess great flexibility of loading configurations. From a utilization standpoint, such flexibility is desirable; but unless due consideration is given to weight and balance control, such an aircraft may easily be loaded in a nose-heavy or tail-heavy condition.
Large aircraft, particularly those operated by air carriers, are flown and maintained by a large number of people. No one pilot or mechanic may be fully and personally familiar with the loading or weight and balance condition of a particular aircraft. A properly documented weight and balance control system which is understood by flight, maintenance, and dispatch personnel is necessary for safe and orderly flight operations.
Weight control has a direct relationship to the profit or loss made by air carrier and commercial operator aircraft. When extra fuel is required for long trips or to allow for delays, the payload (passengers, baggage, cargo) must be proportionately reduced to prevent exceeding maximum weight limits. When trips are short and the payload is high, there are frequent changes of passenger and cargo load. Under these conditions, a quick, accurate method must be available to keep account of the aircraft weight and balance condition.
 
I guess those EK A345's must be immune to weight and balance problems aswell:oops:
 
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