OW Circle Pacific J - Can it be purchased from someone other than QF

[Danger]

I subscribe to Expert Flyer, others to KVS and others have a relationship with someone with access to a GDS.

These return the base fares.

Hard to believe that oneworld used the excuse that they had to remove the fares because they weren't all-inclusive, as required by Australian law, yet other providers seem not to have this problem.

Or maybe I've missed something.

 

[gumpy]

personally I purchase all my OW products ex AKL as the positioning costs aren't much and my head office is there also...

Would love to be able to buy them ex europe or US to get better rates but I can't that far ahead unfortunately...

 

[Kangol]

Current base D fares:

ex NZ:

DCIR22 NZD 8,799 (~AUD6,930)
DCIR26 NZD10,499 (~AUD8,270)

ex Oz:

DCIR22 AUD 9,299
DCIR26 AUD11,099

I couldn't find a more recent thread so sorry for bumping this old one - are those base prices still the same for DCIR22/26?
If possible would you please be able to post base fare prices for Y and Y+ CIR22/26?

Also for ex-NZ Circle Pacific fares, do the first and last stops of the fare have to be the same city (making it a true "circle")?
I imagine for Aus based people to fly to NZ, do a CP back to NZ and have to fly back to Aus may be more trouble than it's worth..

Thanks

 

[serfty]

Fare Information Search:

Departing AKL 
Flying QF  
Purchasing at AKL
Viewing in currency NZD

Fare Basis  Airline  Booking  Trip Type   Fare           Cabin  Effective  Expiration  Min/Max  Advanced
                     Class                                      Date       Date        Stay     Purchase Req
DAS13       QF       D        Round-Trip  5999.00 (NZD)  B                             03 / 12M 
DAS17       QF       D        Round-Trip  7099.00 (NZD)  B                             03 / 12M 
DCIR22      QF       D        Round-Trip  8799.00 (NZD)  B                             05 / 12M 07
DCIR26      QF       D        Round-Trip  10499.00 (NZD) B                             05 / 12M 07
DONEWC3     QF       D        Round-Trip  10799.00 (NZD) B                             10 / 12M 
DCIR29SA    QF       D        Round-Trip  11499.00 (NZD) B                             05 / 12M 07
DGLOB34     QF       D        Round-Trip  12699.00 (NZD) B                             -- / 12M 
DONE4       QF       D        Round-Trip  12699.00 (NZD) B                             -- / 12M 
DONEWC4     QF       D        Round-Trip  12699.00 (NZD) B                             10 / 12M 
DONE5       QF       D        Round-Trip  14299.00 (NZD) B                             -- / 12M 
DONE6       QF       D        Round-Trip  15699.00 (NZD) B                             -- / 12M

Fare Information Search:

Departing SYD 
Flying QF  
Purchasing at SYD
Viewing in currency AUD

Fare Basis  Airline  Booking  Trip Type   Fare           Cabin  Effective  Expiration  Min/Max  Advanced
                     Class                                      Date       Date        Stay     Purchase Req
DAS13       QF       D        Round-Trip  5599.00 (AUD)  B                             03 / 12M 
DAS17       QF       D        Round-Trip  6499.00 (AUD)  B                             03 / 12M 
DCIR22      QF       D        Round-Trip  9299.00 (AUD)  B                             05 / 12M 07
DONEWC3     QF       D        Round-Trip  10499.00 (AUD) B                             10 / 12M 
DCIR26      QF       D        Round-Trip  11099.00 (AUD) B                             05 / 12M 07
DGLOB34     QF       D        Round-Trip  11999.00 (AUD) B                             -- / 12M 
DONE4       QF       D        Round-Trip  11999.00 (AUD) B                             -- / 12M 
DONEWC4     QF       D        Round-Trip  11999.00 (AUD) B                             10 / 12M 
DCIR29SA    QF       D        Round-Trip  12199.00 (AUD) B                             05 / 12M 07
DONE5       QF       D        Round-Trip  13299.00 (AUD) B                             -- / 12M 
DONE6       QF       D        Round-Trip  14799.00 (AUD) B                             -- / 12M

The fares have not changed since that post.

Note up-to-date fares are now available from this new tool: RTW Fares Comparison

You can finish in a different city than the origin within the same country or between USA and Canada.

 

[Kangol]

Thanks, that's very helpful.
So I guess for Australian flyers who want to get a better deal with the NZD fares being somewhat cheaper, there probably isn't a way to get around that by flying to NZ and then starting the CP from there because once you factor in flights to/from NZ, it may end up more expensive.
Have to bite the bullet I guess!

 

[serfty]

It does not cost that much to get to NZ - and many don't fly that last segment from OZ back to NZ either

 

[wandering_fred]

And I would be very surprised if the AKL-LAX flight (ie the first) could not be on the AA code share.

Happy wandering

Fred

 

[jwak]

Why is aus the second most expensive after POM for most of these fairs.?? It's not fair!!!!

 

[serfty]

Why is aus the second most expensive after POM for most of these fairs.?? It's not fair!!!!

Markets ... the member airlines believe that most Australians who buy such products will pay more than those living in other countries.

 

[wandering_fred]

Markets ... the member airlines believe that most Australians who buy such products will pay more than those living in other countries.

And the OneWorld fares on offer are still less expensive than the point to point fares "home" airline has available? :mrgreen:

Happy wandering

Fred

 

[Kangol]

It does not cost that much to get to NZ - and many don't fly that last segment from OZ back to NZ either

Thanks, totally forgot about the possibility of that last part

 

[tuapekastar]

Thanks, that's very helpful.
So I guess for Australian flyers who want to get a better deal with the NZD fares being somewhat cheaper, there probably isn't a way to get around that by flying to NZ and then starting the CP from there because once you factor in flights to/from NZ, it may end up more expensive.
Have to bite the bullet I guess!

The key fare rule for a xCIRnn to remember if wanting to commence in NZ (and being resident elsewhere) is this:

"When travel originates in a country for which a specific local currency fares is published and the
ticket is sold in another country, the fare will be that published for the country of origin converted to
the currency of the country of sale at the bank selling rate. The resultant fare must not be lower
than from the country of sale.
Exception: Not applicable for sales made and/or travel originating in Canada"

Effectively, if you live in, and purchase the ticket in, Australia, but for departure from NZ, you pay the ex-AU price (my contention is that as I rang the NZ number I was purchasing in NZ). This nearly got me (I knew the rule but believed it did not apply in my circumstance) last year when purchasing a DONE4 departing from AKL. Short story is I rang the AA NZ phone number (taxes and surcharges are significantly cheaper if purchased from AA) and the first agent decided as soon as he knew I was from Australia he was going to charge me ex-AU prices (I had booked the flights over the phone with the AA Around The World desk). I rang back a few days later and had it ticketed no problems (but there were some tense times in between). I think I was in the right as far as above rule goes.

So you probably need to have a Plan B, and allow for positioning flights, overnight hotel accommodation in AKL, and any credit card currency conversion fees you may incur. IMHO it is still likely to be worth it, but you need to check your own figures.