Payment issue => pointless service person

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nate89

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I have a flight booked from LAX-LHR-IAD-LAX that leaves on the 21st. I booked it on Monday this past week and AA sent me an email yesterday evening saying that my credit card had been declined.

I called up today to see what had gone wrong (thinking it may have been low balance), but the lady I spoke to said "there was an error with your credit card. You will have to come to the AA service desk in LAX and pay for it in person when you fly".

My first reaction was, "What? Can't you just re-submit it or let me use another card?" So she said it again - I have to pay at LAX when I fly out; she can't do anything about it. I asked if my ticket will be reserved by the time I get there and she confirmed it will.

I mumbled something and then ended the phone call. I was uncomfortable with this. Especially when I re-read a section from the email:

"Please be aware that other airlines flights booked via American Airlines are on a request basis only and fares are not guaranteed until ticketed"

The flight to LHR is on BA metal.

Furthermore, "Please allow us to advise you that failure to secure payment within 72 hours of confirming your reservation will result in cancellation of your booking."

It will be more than 72 hours from the time I received that email to the time I get to LAX.

I decided to call up again, hoping to talk to someone else this time. I did (thankfully).

This time the service person actually listened and double checked the CC details and noted that there were some (optional) fields empty which may have been why it declined. I also put the suburb instead of city (a bad habit...). She said it should be no issue and that she will put it through the system again and I will be emailed within 24 hours whether it has worked or not.

I hope that first service person gets sacked. Maybe I am reading too literally, but if I had not called again my trip risked ruin because of her laziness and/or incompetence.

(end rant)
 
Are you going to complain to AA about this? Even if you don't have the name of the first telephone operator you should probably flag it with AA, if only to prevent something like this happening to someone else in the future.
 
Are you going to complain to AA about this? Even if you don't have the name of the first telephone operator you should probably flag it with AA, if only to prevent something like this happening to someone else in the future.
Yep, did it after venting here :p Be interesting to see their response.
 
I have a flight booked from LAX-LHR-IAD-LAX that leaves on the 21st. I booked it on Monday this past week and AA sent me an email yesterday evening saying that my credit card had been declined.
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Furthermore, "Please allow us to advise you that failure to secure payment within 72 hours of confirming your reservation will result in cancellation of your booking."

It will be more than 72 hours from the time I received that email to the time I get to LAX.

I decided to call up again, hoping to talk to someone else this time. I did (thankfully).

This time the service person actually listened and double checked the CC details and noted that there were some (optional) fields empty which may have been why it declined. I also put the suburb instead of city (a bad habit...). She said it should be no issue and that she will put it through the system again and I will be emailed within 24 hours whether it has worked or not.

(end rant)

Was it booked on AA.com as in the US site?

I had a few dramas with some KUPP fares - 3 out of 4 pnrs ticketed ok but one didn't. I couldn't check the credit card details they had because for security some of the digits are obscured & when I gave the credit card details to try again & reissue the ticket it looked okay as the pnr said ticketed but next time I retrieved it the booking was cancelled.

In the end I rebooked again online then went to AA First Class Checkin at LAX T4 who scanned the same credit card which went through with no problems.

In the payment section of the booking apparently it works best if you put Australia as your country of residence but add a zero in front of your Australian post code to make it 5 digits. I was trying the "El Segundo" method of putting country of residence as USA but with Aussie address except for City/state/country where you put USA details however this isn't necessary any longer.
 
Was it booked on AA.com as in the US site?

I had a few dramas with some KUPP fares - 3 out of 4 pnrs ticketed ok but one didn't. I couldn't check the credit card details they had because for security some of the digits are obscured & when I gave the credit card details to try again & reissue the ticket it looked okay as the pnr said ticketed but next time I retrieved it the booking was cancelled.

In the end I rebooked again online then went to AA First Class Checkin at LAX T4 who scanned the same credit card which went through with no problems.

In the payment section of the booking apparently it works best if you put Australia as your country of residence but add a zero in front of your Australian post code to make it 5 digits. I was trying the "El Segundo" method of putting country of residence as USA but with Aussie address except for City/state/country where you put USA details however this isn't necessary any longer.
it was indeed booked on aa.com

I was wondering about putting the 0 in front of the post code, but I didn't since the lady didn't mention it. I am concerned it will bounce because of this. I guess worst case scenario is I go into the aa office first thing on monday and pay for it there... which is a pain.

I wish they could put it through while on the phone; that would be much simpler.
 
Did you do the booking on the AA United States website, and try to use an Australian-issued credit card? If so, that will be why it was declined. I had the same problem some years ago when in San Francisco, and had to go to the ticketing counter at SFO to pay there (for some reason, they will take your Australian-issued card at the ticket desk, but not on the US website.)
 
Thanks john,

Everything was issued in AUD - Default site that I use has the .com.au and /intl/au in the address so I can only presume it is the AU version, although it probably all goes through the US site anyway - maybe that was indeed the problem? In which case things start getting awkward for myself given my OP.
 
Call AA's Australian ticketing office - it's in BNE and I believe it will accept Australian-issued credit cards.
 
Did you do the booking on the AA United States website, and try to use an Australian-issued credit card? If so, that will be why it was declined. I had the same problem some years ago when in San Francisco, and had to go to the ticketing counter at SFO to pay there (for some reason, they will take your Australian-issued card at the ticket desk, but not on the US website.)


Ring the Australian AA people in Fiji and do it over the phone. You incur a charge but it does work
 
??? thought as long as you make your post code 5 digits, an aussie card will work esp the flight departs from us turf? or has that changed again?
 
It would appear to have changed. See recent comments in
[h=2]First AAward booking... Is it always that easy?[/h]I booked an award through US site, paid $US25 booking fee but had problems finding an assistant who could charge it my Australian CC. A supervisor found a way and slugged me $A80 for the privilege. I rang back to query the charge and no-one had ever heard of it. They suggested a call to the Australian number where, after a long wait, they told me it was a new policy which commenced in December. Next time I'll say it's a US card and try the El Segundo method.
 
??? thought as long as you make your post code 5 digits, an aussie card will work esp the flight departs from us turf? or has that changed again?
That has been my experience when paying the extras on my CC for award bookings via the USA Platinum or Exec Plat desks. So an Aussie postcode of 2345, then agent needs to enter is as 02345. That has worked 100% of the time for me.
 
How long ago was your last booking with the zero method being successful? Seems things have changed? or there are 2 possible scenarios?

Are you referring to flights ex us? or ex oz?

maybe it has to be the top tier phone line to get it right?
 
I think it is "agent dependent".. I booked an AAward for myself no more than 2 weeks ago... agent was happy to "add the zero" and make it all work..

Booked for sister in law a week ago... Agent wouldn't even consider trying the Aussie CC...
 
I think it is "agent dependent".. I booked an AAward for myself no more than 2 weeks ago... agent was happy to "add the zero" and make it all work..

Booked for sister in law a week ago... Agent wouldn't even consider trying the Aussie CC...

IMHO - unless you are dealing with the premium desks - stick with El Segundo over the phone - it has a 100% success rate.
If you try the Zero method and fail - it's a lot more work to get it right.

Keep the Aussie Card method for online bookings ;)
 
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I have checked in now.

What ended up happening was the second attempt to pay did not go through. I had to go to the AA ticket desk after arriving to pay for the ticket which wasn't so bad as I needed a little walk after the haul over.

[edited out my rant about USD/AUD as I am clearly not thinking straight]

Apparently what I was first told was correct-'ish'. I needed to pay when I arrived, but at the same time I think putting the 0 beforehand could work like others have stated.

My question is what address do you give them when you pay using the el segundo method?

I am actually flying on BA metal - I think next time I will just book directly with BA (if there is a next time...).
 
My last Aaward was done 6 days ago.I put in my CC Australian billing address and put the 0 in front of the postcode.No problems.
Proviso-putting the zero in front of your postcode only works if the new 5 digit number is a legitimate US zip code.google yours first before trying.
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