You could speak to Amex concierge and they negotiate on your behalf. Friend is concierge for Black card, asks the hard questions on behalf of premium clients and has some success, understands the actual margins, can see purchase history. YMMV on Discovery card thoughI'm planning to buy a car for ~120. I've got an amex discovery with a high limit that pays 0.75qf points uncapped, but the dealerships are playing hard to get on waiving their card fees for amex, though they will for visa/master. My ANZ black only pays up to 7.5k per statement period, then halves to 20k and then zero. I also have a BW qf transaction account, but I can't remember how that works - anyone know? Any other strategies to consider? Many thanks