Pre-Departure Baggage Weighing

[kangarooflyer88]

What people need to be aware of is that you can have carry on luggage kg 14kg with a FLEX fare, and yet only 7kg with a PLUS fare, and checked luggage, even though the bundles cost the same. Is it fair, I don't know, there will always be different views on this issue.

That's a big issue, there are slight subtleties in the various bundles that most people would overlook. For instance, I suspect many people would expect a Max fare which touts itself as being all-inclusive, doesn't include any extra carry-on baggage allowance (but does include checked bag allowance). That being said, one thing I do own and would encourage everyone to purchase is a handheld baggage scale. It costs like $8 and lets you fly with confidence knowing you won't go over your limits.

I will also point out that bag weight limits, particularly for checked bags are strictly enforced. Case in point, I was flying back from London Heathrow on United Airlines in Polaris business class, as a Premier Gold flyer to Toronto with 3 checked bags. Despite the cabin I was booked into and my status, each bag was still weighed, and one bag was 2 kg over the limit, I was forced to unceremoniously pop open the bag, remove a couple of items and put it in my carry on (and in case anyone is wondering, I was moving from UK temporarily to Canada)

-RooFlyer88

 

[justinbrett]

That's a big issue, there are slight subtleties in the various bundles that most people would overlook. For instance, I suspect many people would expect a Max fare which touts itself as being all-inclusive, doesn't include any extra carry-on baggage allowance (but does include checked bag allowance). That being said, one thing I do own and would encourage everyone to purchase is a handheld baggage scale. It costs like $8 and lets you fly with confidence knowing you won't go over your limits.

I will also point out that bag weight limits, particularly for checked bags are strictly enforced. Case in point, I was flying back from London Heathrow on United Airlines in Polaris business class, as a Premier Gold flyer to Toronto with 3 checked bags. Despite the cabin I was booked into and my status, each bag was still weighed, and one bag was 2 kg over the limit, I was forced to unceremoniously pop open the bag, remove a couple of items and put it in my carry on (and in case anyone is wondering, I was moving from UK temporarily to Canada)

-RooFlyer88

The 32Kg limit is a safety limit for handling staff. Most airlines class anything heavier than this as freight.

 

[kangarooflyer88]

The 32Kg limit is a safety limit for handling staff. Most airlines class anything heavier than this as freight.

Not AI apparently:

Domestic​

Cabin class/Flight​	Baggage allowance​
First Class​	40Kgs.​
Business Class​	35Kgs.​
Economy Class​	25Kgs.​
Infants in all classes​	10Kgs.​
Alliance Air flights ( except Shimla/Kullu) ( Aircraft types - ATR)*​	15Kgs.​
Alliance Air flights to/from Shimla / Kullu*​	10Kgs.​

-RooFlyer88

 

[justinbrett]

Not AI apparently:


-RooFlyer88

Not to be rude, but India is not exactly a shining beacon for Workers rights!

Edit - it does say

• The maximum weight permissible for a single piece of baggage is 32 kgs. This rule is applicable on the entire Air India network.

 

[TheRealTMA]

Not AI apparently:


-RooFlyer88

That’s the total allowed for multiple bags, not the weight of an individual piece which can only be 23Kg max.

edit: max of 32Kg

 

[kangarooflyer88]

That’s the total allowed for multiple bags, not the weight of an individual piece which can only be 23Kg max.

The rate I quoted was for domestic flights. So far as I can tell only flights to North America use the peace weight concept (i.e. you are permitted to check in so many bags at so many kilograms per bag).

-RooFlyer88

 

[henrus]

The 32Kg limit is a safety limit for handling staff. Most airlines class anything heavier than this as freight.

United Airlines will accept single bags up to 45kg (at an extra fee) but some locations such as Australia and New Zealand are not eligible due to local limitations preventing bags over 32kg.

 

[justinbrett]

The rate I quoted was for domestic flights. So far as I can tell only flights to North America use the peace weight concept (i.e. you are permitted to check in so many bags at so many kilograms per bag).

-RooFlyer88

Peace Weight?

QF domestic does piece & weight.

I'm pretty sure the 32Kg limit is universal regardless of which system.

 

[willclan]

That's a big issue, there are slight subtleties in the various bundles that most people would overlook. For instance, I suspect many people would expect a Max fare which touts itself as being all-inclusive, doesn't include any extra carry-on baggage allowance (but does include checked bag allowance). That being said, one thing I do own and would encourage everyone to purchase is a handheld baggage scale. It costs like $8 and lets you fly with confidence knowing you won't go over your limits.

I will also point out that bag weight limits, particularly for checked bags are strictly enforced. Case in point, I was flying back from London Heathrow on United Airlines in Polaris business class, as a Premier Gold flyer to Toronto with 3 checked bags. Despite the cabin I was booked into and my status, each bag was still weighed, and one bag was 2 kg over the limit, I was forced to unceremoniously pop open the bag, remove a couple of items and put it in my carry on (and in case anyone is wondering, I was moving from UK temporarily to Canada)

-RooFlyer88

That's a big issue, there are slight subtleties in the various bundles that most people would overlook. For instance, I suspect many people would expect a Max fare which touts itself as being all-inclusive, doesn't include any extra carry-on baggage allowance (but does include checked bag allowance). That being said, one thing I do own and would encourage everyone to purchase is a handheld baggage scale. It costs like $8 and lets you fly with confidence knowing you won't go over your limits.

I will also point out that bag weight limits, particularly for checked bags are strictly enforced. Case in point, I was flying back from London Heathrow on United Airlines in Polaris business class, as a Premier Gold flyer to Toronto with 3 checked bags. Despite the cabin I was booked into and my status, each bag was still weighed, and one bag was 2 kg over the limit, I was forced to unceremoniously pop open the bag, remove a couple of items and put it in my carry on (and in case anyone is wondering, I was moving from UK temporarily to Canada)

-RooFlyer88

 

[willclan]

That's a big issue, there are slight subtleties in the various bundles that most people would overlook. For instance, I suspect many people would expect a Max fare which touts itself as being all-inclusive, doesn't include any extra carry-on baggage allowance (but does include checked bag allowance). That being said, one thing I do own and would encourage everyone to purchase is a handheld baggage scale. It costs like $8 and lets you fly with confidence knowing you won't go over your limits.

I will also point out that bag weight limits, particularly for checked bags are strictly enforced. Case in point, I was flying back from London Heathrow on United Airlines in Polaris business class, as a Premier Gold flyer to Toronto with 3 checked bags. Despite the cabin I was booked into and my status, each bag was still weighed, and one bag was 2 kg over the limit, I was forced to unceremoniously pop open the bag, remove a couple of items and put it in my carry on (and in case anyone is wondering, I was moving from UK temporarily to Canada)

-RooFlyer88

Fully agree with the use of hand held scales, but where people are caught out with Jetstar, and other airlines, is the requirement to include handbags, etc, in the total weight, not just the carry on bag that goes in the overhead locker. So your bag may be under 7kg, but the extra weight is the killer.

 

[FishFood]

When travelling internationally on JQ my carry on was weighed both times, but domestically I haven't had it happen yet

 

[justinbrett]

Fully agree with the use of hand held scales, but where people are caught out with Jetstar, and other airlines, is the requirement to include handbags, etc, in the total weight, not just the carry on bag that goes in the overhead locker. So your bag may be under 7kg, but the extra weight is the killer.

The trick is to leave your personal items with someone else, and proactively get your cabin bag weighed so they put a tag on it. No more questions after that.

 

[TheRealTMA]

It's interesting with carryons for international travel. At BNE they used to have an officious person just before security checking withn a set of scales but they were airport people not from the airline. If you knew your bag was overweight, you could get a tag from the checking (J/F) from the airline (in particular EK) declaring that the bag was accepted by the airline and for the official to back off. Not sure if this still happens!

 

[lovestotravel]

Returned from MCY to MEL last Saturday, EVERY passenger on the flights to SYD and MEL were checked for bag weight, and many were forced to pay extra fees for being above the limit. The two staff went up and down the lines several times to check everyone was tagged, and anyone arriving late was stopped at the gate and checked,

This seems to be a common practice at MCY, I travel there regularly to see family, would be interested to see how many other regional airports practice this to such a consistent extent.

What people need to be aware of is that you can have carry on luggage kg 14kg with a FLEX fare, and yet only 7kg with a PLUS fare, and checked luggage, even though the bundles cost the same. Is it fair, I don't know, there will always be different views on this issue.

On Sunday as too, for both JQ flights that were leaving as I waited for my delayed and delayed and then diverted via BNE VA flight.

Multiple announcements to come and get your bag weighed and tagged if not already done.

People lining up for 30 mins plus for the JQ flights

It really is cattle class

 

[justinbrett]

It's interesting with carryons for international travel. At BNE they used to have an officious person just before security checking withn a set of scales but they were airport people not from the airline. If you knew your bag was overweight, you could get a tag from the checking (J/F) from the airline (in particular EK) declaring that the bag was accepted by the airline and for the official to back off. Not sure if this still happens!

I have never seen that in SYD. Seems bizarre as airlines have different limits - and some (like AA) don't have a limit.

 

[TheRealTMA]

I have never seen that in SYD. Seems bizarre as airlines have different limits - and some (like AA) don't have a limit.

Yes. BA are interesting. Puts local airlinesto shame. (But local airlines "usually" manage to deliver luggage with the flight while BA can be probematic.)

"All customers are permitted to carry one piece of hand luggage and one small item (handbag, laptop) on board. Hand luggage must not exceed 56cm x 45cm x 25cm and the small item must be no bigger than 40cm x 30cm x 15cm. Both items can weight up to 23kg each."

British Airways 2022 Baggage Allowance

Find out everything you need to know about British Airways baggage allowance and fees. Including excess and extra baggage charges.

www.mybaggage.com

 

[jb747]

At BNE they used to have an officious person just before security checking withn a set of scales but they were airport people not from the airline.

Curious. I wouldn't have thought it was any of their business.

 

[JohnPhelan]

It's interesting with carryons for international travel. At BNE they used to have an officious person just before security checking withn a set of scales but they were airport people not from the airline. If you knew your bag was overweight, you could get a tag from the checking (J/F) from the airline (in particular EK) declaring that the bag was accepted by the airline and for the official to back off. Not sure if this still happens!

Curious. I wouldn't have thought it was any of their business.

Quite right, jb747, it is none of their business. But that doesn't stop a security screener who is determined to be the self-appointed luggage gestapo. At BNE domestic, I once had a security screener at the VA screening point pick up my carry-on and declare it "too heavy" (without actually weighing it) and wouldn't allow me to go up the escalator to the departure level! She told me to go back to check-in.

So I grabbed my bag and walked to the other end of the domestic terminal and went through the Qantas screening point - no issues - and then just walked back along the departure level to the VA gates ........

 

[Quickstatus]

target a specific flight

target people randomly

Then people complain that JQ didn’t check them on previous flights. Yadayadayada

 

[serfty]

At BNE they used to have an officious person just before security checking withn a set of scales but they were airport people not from the airline.

Curious. I wouldn't have thought it was any of their business.

There was a time maybe a decade ago or more when for a few years there was often an airport employee inside the entrance to MEL international security/emigration who would pick out people coming through and weigh their bags.

Back in those days your BP/express pass were checked for "premium" credentials just before that entry and qualifying PAX were directed to the left - the bag weigh dude tended to hang out on the right.