Maybe she's thinking about the type on auto sites where you pay a $200 deposit to hold a car but it's fully refundable if the car doesn't suit once you've seen itI'm not sure I see the point of a hold fee if you can get it back without booking
Maybe she's thinking about the type on auto sites where you pay a $200 deposit to hold a car but it's fully refundable if the car doesn't suit once you've seen itI'm not sure I see the point of a hold fee if you can get it back without booking
What does “fully refundable” mean in the context of “it’s possible to refund if..”? They are not the same thing.
Ignoring the “fully” is convenient.It's literally the meaning of the -able suffix - "capable of being"
Ignoring the “fully” is convenient.
If you put money on a house, car etc and don’t go through with the sale, you usually lose the money.
Actually there are deposits which are "fully refundable" when buying property. Usually a "deposit" is paid to a developer when buying off-the-plan (or directly from them post completion), to draw up the contract. This in no way obligates you to sign the contract, and the deposit is fully refundable if you don't.How often do you hear the term "fully refundable" deposit when purchasing a house!
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Fully redeemable would be better wording IMO. I agree that fully refundable is misleading.
I don't see the point of the service at all, QF holds your booking until midnight for free. AA does 24 hours for free. Other carriers I've seen do longer but that's not taken off the ticket price.
What's the market for selling tickets that can't be paid for within 24 hours, but can be paid for within 72 hours?
This feature has been on QF for a long time - I think about 15+ years - as far as I know this is the first it's come up on AFF regarding the fee. In reality I think very few people use it.
It seems pretty clear - the holding guarantee is able to (and will be) refunded if you go ahead with the ticket purchase, otherwise it is forfeited.
My recent experience is that QF has been releasing the bookings sometime before midnight (generally seems they hold on to it for about 30 minutes)I don't see the point of the service at all, QF holds your booking until midnight for free. AA does 24 hours for free. Other carriers I've seen do longer but that's not taken off the ticket price.
Not sure that's correct. If they'd proceeded with the ticket purchase they'd asked Qantas to hold for them, then they have got their holding fee back.The deposit in the OP's case is always non-refundable! i.e. They will never get it back
Even better is the next condition down that says they don't actually hold the fare that you've just paid to put on hold.Yes exactly. It says nothing about active cancellation, it only talks about letting the booking lapse by not paying on time.
That's not correct. It depends on the conditions of the sale contract..If you put money on a house, car etc and don’t go through with the sale, you usually lose the money.
My recent experience is that QF has been releasing the bookings sometime before midnight (generally seems they hold on to it for about 30 minutes)
Gee you're really hung up on this one line for you defence of qantas.Not when it's directly followed in clear English, on the same page, with
if full payment is not made on time your booking and holding guarantee will be forfeited.
I'm really not getting what is unclear about that. Refundable means it's possible to refund it if you follow the conditions. If you book a refundable flight or hotel, there's still conditions attached to that. In this case, the conditions are clearly laid out in full size print under a heading of "things you need to know". If you chose to ignore that, that's on you - it's not like it's in fine print.
But yes, I don't know why you'd bother - although it would preserve your fare class for the flight, so it stops the fare going up in that regard - it would be pretty unlucky if the fare itself or taxes went up before you booked.