QANTAS being taken over by Macquarie Bank..

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novacatz said:
so - well... what is the verdict?

That it's too close to call, and that we may find out late tonight (via media probably) whether the 50% was achieved.

Formal notification to the ASX I assume will happen tonight, or over the weekend, but doubt it will be added to the company announcements until early Monday.

Maybe at worst case, a press conference will be held first thing Mon for the annoucement. I'm actually suprised the shares aren't suspended at the moment. I would expect that due to the "price/market sensitive news" that is due out, that shares would be suspended.

I think this article is quite good to explain the situation:
Qantas takeover bid deadline looms - Breaking News - Business - Breaking News
 
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sydbloke said:
So what's next?
M.Jackson gone?

Hmmm. Makes you wonder. Will the "new" shareholders so opposed to the bid, and the previous ones who havn't sold lead a revolt to kick out the insiders who were so supportive of the deal?

Would be nice to see.

I think Qantas in 12 months will be a lot different to the Qantas today (even with the buyout failing at this step. Lots of changes are going to happen, and I assume asset sales even without the buyout). But will another attempt occur to buy out Qantas soon?
 
Mal said:
But will another attempt occur to buy out Qantas soon?

I'll offer $500 cash in hand :p

Would be interesting to know how many millions APA blew in its mission to get this over the line.
 
sydbloke said:
I'll offer $500 cash in hand :p

Would be interesting to know how many millions APA blew in its mission to get this over the line.

Haha. No bets here on whether a rematch would happen :)

APA blew an absolute fortune methinks. Oh well. It's like most bits of gambling. You throw a chunk of money down to earn a lot more back. Sometimes you win, sometimes the odds are against you...
 
I might invest in a couple of shares just so I can go to the AGM this year.

One thinks it'll be an interesting show come open discussion/question time.
 
sydbloke said:
I might invest in a couple of shares just so I can go to the AGM this year.

One thinks it'll be an interesting show come open discussion/question time.

Why pay $. Most companies allow you to sign up on the visitors register if you want to. Otherwise, find a friend with a few shares, and get them to proxy you 1 share's voting power...
 
Qantas takeover bid fails | The Daily Telegraph

"A source said last night that anticipated acceptances from US-based hedge fund Hayman Capital Partners failed to materialise by the deadline.
"All through the bid, they've said they would accept," the source said.
The source said Hayman told irate APA executives that accepting the offer did not fit in with its strategy.
 
I think we will see Mr Dixon and Ms Jackson down at the Centrelink cue on Monday morning .

Poor ****o, 60 million down the gurgler.................sob sob sob
 
Mal said:
Haha. No bets here on whether a rematch would happen :)

APA blew an absolute fortune methinks. Oh well. It's like most bits of gambling. You throw a chunk of money down to earn a lot more back. Sometimes you win, sometimes the odds are against you...
I actually believe APA will still make a substantial profit out of all this. They simply need to keep what shares they can and the value should appreciate over the next year or so giving a healthy capital gain.

What there were after however was at least a billion dollars in liquid asset - THIS YEAR.

I feel they espied an undervalued entity.

Made an initial bid and the directors rejected it.

Made a deal to line the directors pockets should the bid succeeded and upped the anti; the directors then agreed.

So they made a bid on undervalued shares at a rate somewhere between the existing market value and the 'real' value.

Then what happened?

They miscalculated public sentiment; something that is generally not much of an issue in most profit making exercises such as this.

They also were not aware of the imminent substantial increase in the value aussie dollar against the greenback; this made the shares worth a lot more to hang on to for multinational investment corporations.

The across the board increase in the overall value of shares on the ASX since the bid was first made also was not expected ... so if you sell to APA then where do you invest your freed funds on a bull market?

APA varied the bid in an effort to entice more in; unsuccessfully.

I wonder what Bob Mansfield will be doing this time next year? (Let alone a few well paid QF Employees)
 
Interesting quote from one Business commentator who seems to have been quite correct in his 'soothsaying':
Terry McCrann said:
... My prediction: they finish below 70 per cent, they will keep the shares.

If I'm right that would tell us a number of critical things.

That buying Qantas shares at $5.45 is so attractive, they'll take any they can get. And their bankers will agree with them.

But second, that they will then seek to take out the rest with a follow-on offer. Because if buying, say, 60 per cent of Qantas at $5.45 is so fantastic, there's even more juice in taking it private as quickly as possible. Even paying a higher price for the rest.
 
Come on do you really, really, really think that if ****o and his board were not offered such a huge bribe....oooooops bloody typo, a huge cash bonus, that would have endorsed this deal ??????????? me thinks, NO WAY MAN
 
Takeshi said:
I think we will see Mr Dixon and Ms Jackson down at the Centrelink cue on Monday morning .

Poor ****o, 60 million down the gurgler.................sob sob sob

Hope Dixon and Jackson will go. They should.
 
What a nightmare it will be now to see who owns what shares, and keep the foreigners at under 51% as per the Qantas Sales Act.
 
I don't think that the main executive team will get the sack - none of them.

For them to get the sack, the institutions who control the majority of the company, would have to replace them with a more experienced and successful team than currently exists. If that was possible, they would already be there?!?!

I wouldn't be surprised if they called a special general meeting, resign and offer themselves up for reelection, and be re-elected with only a small dissent from smaller shareholders.

Afterall, they have done a pretty good job at running the business. (in my opinion)

At the time they accepted the deal (in December) it probably did look good to them. The independent expert thought so as well. It is the period between then and now, when the market was up something like 15% that things looked a tad bad.

We have to remember that whilst APA were going to get a sweet deal and cheap buy, the market has never really valued Qantas appropriately. They have, in recent years, traded between a band of $2.75 - $4.00.

While many will call for a spill of the board and senior management, all that will do is cause chaos and will negatively impact on the business..

What do people think about the share price on Monday? A big drop???

I wouldn't be surprised to see it open at say $4.50 and stabilise at around $4.75.
 
Takeshi said:
Now up to 33%, so I am sure Hedge funds will come up with 17% by COB tommorrow to keep this bid alive.

Looks like a done deal to me ( unfortunateley )

Hmmm, seems that you were wrong, Takeshi. Whilst I'm glad that the bid failed, I wonder whether the aftermath will shake-out the QF execs. It must have been deflating to be in the QF bunker tonight after the results were advised.

From $5.38 close today, I'd agree that Monday opening will drop quickly to ~ $4.50
 
Takeshi said:
I think we will see Mr Dixon and Ms Jackson down at the Centrelink cue on Monday morning .

Poor ****o, 60 million down the gurgler.................sob sob sob

I doubt they will be in need of unemployment benefits or a job - they are all pretty wealthy (Dixon is earning $5.5 million p.a. and Jackson is on $550,000 just from their Qantas jobs)

IF IF IF they left Qantas, which I highly doubt (see my previous post):

Marg Jackson will be offered chairwomanships at other companies and director posts (in addition to her current posts - Directorships at ANZ and Billabong).
Geoff Dixon will continue on in his role as director of PBL and will also be offered other prestigious posts. He is pretty close to some huge business figures in Australia (including James Packer), not to mention he is a pretty skilled and successful businessman.
 
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How long by law does APA have to wait to come back with another offer ?
I read it was 1 month ??
And whats everyones opinion here, do you think APA will come back with a higher offer of around the $6.50ish mark ??
 
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