Qantas celebrates the 101st B737 purchase (251st Boeing)

[Melburnian1]

Re: Qantas receives 100th 737

According to www.airfleets.net, QF still has six Boeing 737-400 planes of which two date from 31 October 1993: almost 20 years old.

Perhaps QF is retiring one of these with its newest delivery, but overall (including planes used internationally), QF does not have a particularly modern fleet, thanks to a particular previous CEO's aversion to purchasing Boeing 777-300ERs that have proven successful for a number of Asian airlines.

Every time I fly on one of PR's five B773s, I think of that particular gentleman and why he declined to match what his Asian competitors such as SQ were doing. Perhaps it wasn't just his Board: presumably 'he knew best' (despite QF not now having paid a dividend for four of five years).

 

[mannej]

Re: Qantas receives 100th 737

According to www.airfleets.net, QF still has six Boeing 737-400 planes of which two date from 31 October 1993: almost 20 years old.

Perhaps QF is retiring one of these with its newest delivery, but overall (including planes used internationally), QF does not have a particularly modern fleet, thanks to a particular previous CEO's aversion to purchasing Boeing 777-300ERs that have proven successful for a number of Asian airlines.

Every time I fly on one of PR's five B773s, I think of that particular gentleman and why he declined to match what his Asian competitors such as SQ were doing. Perhaps it wasn't just his Board: presumably 'he knew best' (despite QF not now having paid a dividend for four of five years).

I'll ask the question. You mention the modern Asian fleets. Apart from SQ, and according to airfleets, what is the average age of the QF fleet compared to the PR fleet for one, TG, MH and CX? I think you may be surprised. Let me give you the hint, they do not have the oldest fleet average in the group, and there isn't a significant difference with the others in the group.

 

[Melburnian1]

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The QF fleet is an average age of 10.3 years.

PR's is 9.6 but reducing, MH is 9.3 years, SQ is 7.5 and CX is 9.5. So of these, QF is the oldest - and it shows with its elderly 767s and 747s.

 

[mannej]

Re: Qantas receives 100th 737

The QF fleet is an average age of 10.3 years.

PR's is 9.6 but reducing, MH is 9.3 years, SQ is 7.5 and CX is 9.5. So of these, QF is the oldest - and it shows with its elderly 767s and 747s.

Nice try! You totally missed out airlines in my question to suit your answer, so that is wrong. TG has an average fleet age of over 11 (funny that, you missed that one out). And apart from SQ, there isn't much difference between QF, CX and MH is there?
QF are retiring the older 767's (I.e the ZX's), the older RR 747's and the 734's. So wouldn't that make their fleet age reduce as well?

 

[serfty]

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The average age of a QF 737 is 8¼ years - when the last of the 734s depart the average age will be under 7 (with the oldest nearing 12 year of age).

Fleet age Qantas | Airfleets aviation

 

[harvyk]

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It should probably be pointed out that thanks to our tax rules, it's not exactly economical for QF to have a young fleet. From what I have heard, one of the reasons why SQ can have a young fleet is because of their ability to write off a planes cost in a much shorter time thanks to singapores tax system.

 

[oz_mark]

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It should probably be pointed out that thanks to our tax rules, it's not exactly economical for QF to have a young fleet. From what I have heard, one of the reasons why SQ can have a young fleet is because of their ability to write off a planes cost in a much shorter time thanks to singapores tax system.

SQ are in the process of aging their fleet though. Something QF did a few years back.

 

[vertisol]

Re: Qantas receives 100th 737

According to www.airfleets.net, QF still has six Boeing 737-400 planes of which two date from 31 October 1993: almost 20 years old.

Perhaps QF is retiring one of these with its newest delivery, but overall (including planes used internationally), QF does not have a particularly modern fleet, thanks to a particular previous CEO's aversion to purchasing Boeing 777-300ERs that have proven successful for a number of Asian airlines.

Every time I fly on one of PR's five B773s, I think of that particular gentleman and why he declined to match what his Asian competitors such as SQ were doing. Perhaps it wasn't just his Board: presumably 'he knew best' (despite QF not now having paid a dividend for four of five years).

And it feels like they are almost exclusively used on my flights ex CBR!

 

[Fruitcake]

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And it feels like they are almost exclusively used on my flights ex CBR!

Your perception is pretty much reality. The ability to deploy the relatively large business class cabin of the 734s on CBR routes is the main reason they are still around.

 

[serfty]

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And it feels like they are almost exclusively used on my flights ex CBR!

Of course - how else ya gunna get 20 J seats on a 737 ...

 

[harvyk]

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Your perception is pretty much reality. The ability to deploy the relatively large business class cabin of the 734s on CBR routes is the main reason they are still around.

Yeah, but calling the convertible J a J seat is a pretty big stretch IMHO... (unfortunately it's what I always seem to get when I'm lucky enough to fly J )

 

[drewbles]

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Yet they still had the FA's in the old uniforms. Thought they would have used the new ones (they are out there in small quantities).