Qantas Delays/Cancellations

Not only that Melburnian1, the A380 crew are employed through a different "enhanced simpler but fairer" EB contract than the legacy 747 crew EB. Bringing back a 747 will also need crew. I dont know if QF has enough 747 crew post restructuring to cater for a 747 ressurection either.

When the 787 arrives QF will create a new employment contract just for 787 crew just as they did for the 380 crew. The legacy contracts for the 747 will just fade away as the last of the 747 flies into the sunset.

The price of fuel would make the cost of operating a 747 would be cheaper but as the price of fuel would be the same for a 747 and 380, the differential would be the same. Of course the cost of resurrecting a 747 would be substantial as often these aircraft are timed into retirement to avoid major checks and resurrecting them would incur these and extra resurrection repairs costs.
 
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When the 787 arrives QF will create a new employment contract just for 787 crew just as they did for the 380 crew. The legacy contracts for the 747 will just fade away as the last of the 747 flies into the sunset.

Off topic and long story short, management has stated that they would like both QAL and QCCA crew to operate on it. And while it was probably thought of, it has also been said that there are no plans to set up a further division.

The International EBA is up for this year for negotiation and the 787 will play a big part of it. And whilst crew are no longer hired under a legacy contract, they still make the majority of crew and are not going anywhere soon, even with the departure of the 747.
 
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QF129 from SYD to PVG, often very punctual, is delayed on Saturday 13 February in its departure from 1050 to an expected 1200 but QF suggests that it will only be half an hour late arriving at 1900 hours this evening. As QF130, the redeye back from PVG is timetabled to depart at 2005, it will be at least marginally delayed.

The B744 operating QF63 has been altered to depart at 1210 in lieu of 1135.
 
. It may be that a 747 can do long haul flights "cheaper" than the Qantas a380s.
I think on a cosy per seat basis, the A380 will win out. However if you can't fill the A380 then putting a 747 on the route may result in a better result
 
Melburnian1 do you have a sense which QF flight number is the most punctual and which is the least?

Officially overall OTP is very good for such a complex system. But who are the outliers?
 
Quickstatus, a definitive measure is through FlightStats - Global Flight Tracker, Status Tracking and Airport Information and anyone is best to look that up but my sense is in summary, and subject to variation on a daily basis for QF (not JQ) medium and long haul flights - simply a broad 'back of the envelope' guide. Where I have not stated otherwise, my assessment is for all routes, both directions operated by QF ex and to Oz.

Excellent punctuality: Oz to and from Dallas Fort Worth, Japan flights and most often Bangkok, Jakarta, Hawaii and Shanghai with Sydney, Brisbane or Perth to Singapore and Brisbane to Hong Kong also featuring. Japan is probably the standout with the Brisbane and Sydney to Narita and Haneda respectively flights hardly ever late in either direction, notwithstanding that occasionally due to the much featured B744 problems on earlier pages of this thread there have been up to 24 hour occasional delays with the Sydney - Haneda flights.

Very good punctuality: Brisbane to Los Angeles (but not always the 'tag flight' on to New York, sometimes due to extremely difficult weather), Johannesburg and (seasonal) Vancouver (note: at times it would be fair to place all three in the 'excellent' category).

Very good punctuality but subject to airport or airspace congestion delays at the Asian end: Manila

Fair punctuality: Melbourne or Sydney to Hong Kong, Sydney to London and return, San Francisco, Santiago and Melbourne to Singapore (note: Hong Kong and San Fran can often be 'very good' but in the last couple of months there have been a couple of bad delays if I recall, so they are marked down a bit for that)

Due to the extra padding QF introduced for the northern winter QF1/2/9 and 10 timetables between Oz and DXB/ LHR and return, even the SYD flights may sometimes be less late arriving LHR than they were arriving in DXB provided the airline is able to adhere to the allowed time for the intermediate stop, as the second sector has a particularly slow timetable now, allowing time to be often picked up.

The padding has ensured that SQ's flights are now the fastest option for travellers - and that airline tends to have superior punctuality and reliability compared to QF.

Poor punctuality: Sydney or Melbourne to Los Angeles or return (sometimes due to the late running connection from New York if westbound), Oz to or from New York

Appalling punctuality: QF9 and QF10 Melbourne to Dubai and London and return - use a reliable airline like SQ with better frequencies and a more pleasant route via the best airport in the world in Changi instead!

I have omitted shorter routes such as New Zealand and closer Pacific destinations but flights to and from NZ can have wide variations in punctuality, perhaps a tad surprising.

My suggestion is that BNE has more punctual QFi flights overall than MEL, again surprising because neither are at the undoubted core of QFi's network which remains SYD and hence if planes are defective in either BNE or MEL, replacement 'ferry flights' such as QF60XX may have to operate should a spare be available, so one might think that punctuality and reliability would be roughly equal at BNE and MEL. Of course MEL has QF9 and 10 which bias the figures as adverse for MEL; BNE has no such equivalent long haul QF flight to or from Europe.

I hope others see this as a fair assessment, but obviously on any one day things can be close to perfect, or one or two flights or the whole network can be in chaos.
 
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True but it is disruptive to sleep patterns as not too many of us want to arrive home at say 0230 after a long trip overseas if we can avoid it. There may also be a surprising number of transit passengers to ADL, LST, HBA and even CBR or BNE who may be in an hotel before an 0800 or so flight the next day so late arrivals cut into sleeping time.
 
QF27 from SYD departed 54 minutes late on Saturday 13 February at 1344, but QF suggests that SCL arrival will be reduced to a deficit of only 20 minutes late - same day at 1140. The return QF28 is not due out until 1340 hours so (touching wood) it ought to be on or extremely close to time in leaving.
 
Additionally DXB temperatures in summer will require greater thrust for takeoff.

Not necessarily. They aren't as heavy eastbound.

I believe in the past the QF 747 classics has water cooling of the engines on takeoff in the form of water sprays to lower engine temps while increasing max thrust by injecting more fuel?

The water didn't lower temperatures; it had the opposite effect. A wet take off would generally set off all of the the overtemp lights on the old Classics. It's a great way to shorten the life of the engines. The water is used to increase the mass flow of the engines (mass * acceleration), with extra fuel to make sure things stayed hot. It throws up lots of mechanical issues, as well as operational ones...for instance you have to account not only for potential engine failures, but also for the loss of water to one or two engines. Huge PITA.
 
The Sunday 14 February MEL to HKG QF29 is expected to depart 50 minutes late at 1215. It should pick up some time enroute.

Ex SYD, QF81 departed 42 minutes late at 1157 for SIN with forecast arrival at 1710, still 40 minutes late.

UPDATE: The MEL - HKG flight did not depart until 1230.
 
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QF97 (BNE - HKG day flight) is normally very punctual but on Monday 15 February that is not the case with A333 VH-QPF taking off at 1209 as against pushback time of 1050. Arrival should be at around 1830, 40 minutes behind time.

QF2046, the 1520 hours from SYD to DBO has been cancelled while QF2213, the 1530 hours from SYD down to the Twin Cities of Albury and Wodonga has been delayed departing until a forecast 1600 hours.

Flagship QF1 is delayed departing from SYD from 1645 until a suggested 1800 hours for its long trip to DXB and then shorter, medium haul duration leg to LHR. QF1 has a better record of getting away on time than its southern cousin QF9 ex MEL.

QF1485 from SYD to CBR, the 1600 hours flight, was also cancelled as QF1495, the 1935 hours ex SYD will also be - probably the same Qantaslink plane.
 
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On Tuesday 16 February QF29 from MEL to HKG departed 42 minutes late at 1207 but arrival is suggested as at 1820, 25 minutes behind time.

The Monday 15 February QF11 'tag flight' using the B744 ex BNE departed LAX at 0913, 53 minutes late but lost much time en route to JFK where it was at the gate at 1836, 126 minutes late. I assume that this was weather-related at the destination as three hours later, there is rain at JFK and a temperature of two degrees Celsius - inhospitable. Many other flights were late: was JFK closed, or did it have operating restrictions, for a period?

The returning Monday evening QF12 did not depart JFK until 2134 (instead of 1800) and is hence not due at LAX until 2355 hours, two hours and 50 minutes late.

In consequence, QF12 from LAX to SYD is expected to depart at 0100 on Tuesday morning, two and a half hours late with arrival on Wednesday morning at 1020, an hour and 50 minutes behind time.

The B744 operating QF96 is expected to depart LAX at 0200 on Tuesday, arriving MEL at 1200 on Wednesday, two hours late. This appears to be the B744 from QF12 ex JFK that is very late and arriving LAX at 0020 hours on Tuesday.

QF443, the Tuesday 1500 hours SYD to MEL and QF562, the 1645 hours northwards SYD to BNE have both 'got the boot.'
 
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QF93, the 1120 from MEL to LAX on Wednesday 17 February will instead depart at 1345 with arrival expected to be an hour and 40 minutes behind time at 0815.

QF161 from SYD for the short hop across to Windy Wellington is delayed until 1215 in its departure. QF143 from SYD to AKL departed 69 minutes late at 1109 this morning. QF19 from SYD to MNL is delayed from 1225 to an expected 1250 in departing.

UPDATE: QF93 managed to depart at 1254, significantly earlier than QF had predicted. It will be 55 minutes late arriving in LAX at 0730.

QF589 (the 0830 BNE to PER) took off at 1042 and hence is due to arrive at 1315 hours, 80 minutes late. Aircraft is A332 VH-EBR.

The delayed QF19 (A333 VH-QPJ) departed at 1309 and should be at its Filipino destination at 1805 hours, 35 minutes late.
 
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I seem to pick the wrong QF12 flights. Issue wih QF12 engine 1 so flight has been delayed currently as engineers are checking the aircraft. LAX - SYD
 
christanil, many thanks for your 'live to air' report - nothing beats that - but the QF website claims that you will be departing in 20 minutes or so - at 0005 LAX time on Wednesday 17 February for an 0855 hours arrival, just 25 minutes late, in SYD on Thursday 18.

The AA LAX - SYD flight has departed as have the MEL and BNE-bound QF ones, so yes, you may indeed have picked an 'incorrect' flight on which to travel.

UPDATE: QF12 departed LAX at 0045 on Wednesday, so is due into SYD at 0955 hours on Thursday 18 February, 85 minutes late and an hour later than QF recently predicted.
 
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On Thursday 18 February, QF610, the 0905 MEL to BNE has got the axe as did the earlier, southbound QF411, the 0730 SYD to MEL.

The following QF415 southbound is delayed in its departure by an expected 40 minutes to 0840 hours.
 
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