Qantas Delays/Cancellations

[Melburnian1]

Pax connecting to SFO and DFW may miss their transpac flight.

With most airlines, Quickstatus, doesn't this tend to vary according to how many connecting passengers there are?

If it was two for each of the DFW and SFO scheduled 1300 hours departures, it would make sense for the flight to depart (if it was ready and cleared) on time; if it was 10 or more, maybe not - might be cheaper in that case to hold the flight for half an hour.

 

[Quickstatus]

The catering issue which I raised over at QFF thread may affect QF93

 

[Melburnian1]

Quickstatus, QF93 departed an hour late this morning - with or without catering. There is nothing on websites about any industrial action at Q Catering (which is not to say it isn't occurring). Excellent pickup by you if it turns out to be true.

QF15 from BNE to LAX (B744) departed 42 minutes late on Monday 18 July at 1042; arrival is suggested as half an hour late at 0630.

The relatively infrequent QF95 (B744 flight MEL - LAX) from MEL is delayed by an expected 55 minutes to 1245 in its departure.

 

[jb747]

If the fog started to roll in as suggested by the BOM at about 2100 over Sydney (not necessarily Sydney Airport) last night (Sunday 17) would the airmen on board flights from the USA, UK and other locations have had prior notice or would this be relayed to them at a later stage due to what might be the relatively unpredictability of the density, duration and geographic coverage of the fog?

You'd need to find yesterday's TAFs for Sydney. I know how to get the current ones, but not past.

Having the forecast changed dramatically in flight isn't really all that helpful. I did once ask them to beam me up 10 tonnes of fuel, but nothing came of it!

 

[Quickstatus]

With most airlines, Quickstatus, doesn't this tend to vary according to how many connecting passengers there are?

If it was two for each of the DFW and SFO scheduled 1300 hours departures, it would make sense for the flight to depart (if it was ready and cleared) on time; if it was 10 or more, maybe not - might be cheaper in that case to hold the flight for half an hour.

Yes and in in fact last nights MH607 late as it was due to KUL single runway ops from storms waited for 30 pax coming from LHR. Finally late by 2 hours. I needed an electric cart which was organised for me without me asking to transfer to T1 C gate for QF8404. From T2 E gates via transfer desk. 2 PNR as well and an upgrade to F.

 

[milehighclub]

I'm not aware of any industrial action taking place down at Q Catering. The only recent industrial action was actually catering in JNB a little while ago.

QF93 absolutely would have gone with catering because of it's length. A MEL-SYD however is allowed to depart with nil catering.

 

[Quickstatus]

I wonder how many Q catering trucks are there in MEL.

CSM on QF422 reported 10 "out of action" - on a Monday...

 

[Melburnian1]

In relation to Quickstatus' comments a few posts above, it looks like QF73 from SYD to SFO may have been held for the late running QF422 domestic connection ex MEL as 73 departing at 1354 for an expected 1000 arrival, half an hour late.

However QF7 from SYD to DFW was only 22 minutes late away at 1322 this afternoon so it may have departed without any (to use very bad English) 'connectees'.

Meanwhile QF19 (1210 hours SYD - MNL) did not depart until 1403 with arrival suggested as 1950, 80 minutes late and in the unlikely event given MNL's congestion of it being achieved representing a net 33 minute gain on the gate-to-gate timetable.

Shorter duration QF41 from SYD to CGK has been delayed an estimated 35 minutes to a revised departure of 1425 mid afternoon.

 

[Quickstatus]

In relation to Quickstatus' comments a few posts above, it looks like QF73 from SYD to SFO may have been held for the late running QF422 domestic connection ex MEL as 73 departing at 1354 for an expected 1000 arrival, half an hour late.

However QF7 from SYD to DFW was only 22 minutes late away at 1322 this afternoon so it may have departed without any (to use very bad English) 'connectees'....

...Shorter duration QF41 from SYD to CGK has been delayed an estimated 35 minutes to a revised departure of 1425 mid afternoon.

The connectee from QF422 to QF73 was a CLPO - and he was furious about the delay because he was advised to go via SYD rather than QF95 via MEL. Easy to be smart in hindsight. The CSM told him to raise it with AJ!!!.

He transferred via Gate 15 at DomT3 which is the QF domestic to international terminal transfer gate.
Funny he rushed out the aircraft as soon as it was opened - always walk behind ground crew because they need to beep the aerobridge door open before you can go into terminal.

In fact the reason QF41 is delayed is because of the delayed inbound QF422.

CLPO = Chairmans Lounge Platinum One in cabin crew parlance

 

[Melburnian1]

The Monday 18 July 2016 late afternoon delays continue as 'carryover' from this morning's severe fog affecting SYD. QF444, the 1530 hours MEL - SYD was airborne at 1654 with arrival likely at 1802 hours, 67 minutes late: A332 VH-EBF is the aircraft.

QF923, the 1430 hours from CNS down to SYD took off at 1529 with an identical arrival time of 1802, 37 minutes behind time: B738 VH-VYK is the aircraft.

The 1600 hours ADL - MEL (QF692) was in the sky at 1645; B738 VH-VYG should arrive at about 1824 hours, 34 minutes late.

Northbound QF452, the 1700 hours MEL - SYD was airborne at a quite late 1802 and should pull in to the terminal at about 1915 hours, 50 minutes late. Aircraft is B738 VH-VYC: it is about 10 minutes behind what should be the following flight QF454, again demontrstaing what a 'lottery' picking a peak period weekday flight can be in terms of 'which one gets there first.'

QF41, the 1350 hours SYD - CGK (A332 VH-EBN) took off later than was previously predicted, at 1512, so arrival in Indonesia should be at 1901, 31 minutes late.

 

[Melburnian1]

On a day of delays, Monday 18 July, even the often super punctual QF1 (A388 VH-OQC) was not immune, taking off at 1722, about 70 minutes late. It should arrive DXB at about 0050, 25 minutes late but with the slow schedules now applying, it has a chance of reaching LHR on time provided it does not overstay in the Middle East.

the Sunday 17 July B744 flight (QF12) from JFK to LAX departed 62 minutes late at 1912 but arrived only 37 minutes behind the timetable at 2142. This westbound flight often picks up time on the schedule so there is no need to 'panic' if it departs half an hour late.

However the onward same aircraft leg to BNE (QF16) inexplicably had a lengthy stay in LAX with departure at 0125 hours on Monday 18 July, 125 minutes late. Tuesday 19 July arrival in the Queensland capital should be at about 0750, 100 minutes late.

 

[Melburnian1]

The connectee from QF422 to QF73 was a CLPO - and he was furious about the delay because he was advised to go via SYD rather than QF95 via MEL. Easy to be smart in hindsight. The CSM told him to raise it with AJ!!!.

He transferred via Gate 15 at DomT3 which is the QF domestic to international terminal transfer gate.

Quickstatus, very interesting that a flight can be delayed for one (obviously very important) passenger. No names..., I assume.

We mere mortals would never warrant such treatment, using 'we' in the royal sense.

'CLPO' ought be incorporated in the abbreviations explanation table elsewhere in AFF. It is not listed. One might think if he was a CLPO that he - or his secretary (politically correct term now is 'personal assistant') - would be able to work out for him/themselves that travelling on QF93 or QF95 would save time and worry compared with travelling MEL - SYD - USA.

 

[Himeno]

Meanwhile QF19 (1210 hours SYD - MNL) did not depart until 1403 with arrival suggested as 1950, 80 minutes late and in the unlikely event given MNL's congestion of it being achieved representing a net 33 minute gain on the gate-to-gate timetable.

QF19 diverted to DRW due to runway issues at MNL.

 

[Quickstatus]

Quickstatus, very interesting that a flight can be delayed for one (obviously very important) passenger. No names..., I assume.

We mere mortals would never warrant such treatment, using 'we' in the royal sense.

'CLPO' ought be incorporated in the abbreviations explanation table elsewhere in AFF. It is not listed. One might think if he was a CLPO that he - or his secretary (politically correct term now is 'personal assistant') - would be able to work out for him/themselves that travelling on QF93 or QF95 would save time and worry compared with travelling MEL - SYD - USA.

I don't know if the connectee connected. Only saw him disappearing through gate 15.

 

[Melburnian1]

Quickstatus, yes, I was looking for a minute or so for QF19 and independent of your post discovered that it arrived in DRW at 1845 hours NT time, taking off again at 2102 not long ago.

This means a MNL arrival at about 2320, almost five hours late and perhaps a departure of QF20 at 0030 if everything went well and there were no further delays on approach of the inbound.

What were the 'runway issues' requiring a diversion? Congestion? It does not appear if the weather up there is out of the ordinary.

 

[milehighclub]

There were soft spots found on the runway. Hopefully it can be repaired by the time the QF19 gets there.

 

[Melburnian1]

There were soft spots found on the runway. Hopefully it can be repaired by the time the QF19 gets there.

Thank you milehighclub - amazing ('inside') knowledge.

Looking up FlightStatus it seems that few aircraft are using the MNL airport at present as many incoming flights are shown as 'delayed.' Not good, given that this airport is busier than MEL for number of passengers.

Diversion to CRK anyone?

Perhaps the pilots can answer - if there was a vestige of a 'soft spot' on a runway, would the landing of even an empty ('ferry flight') A380 cause the situation to deteriorate? Or would such an hypothetical situation never eventuate because the airline sending an A380 would have its procedures and liaison with airport staff in place to ensure that runways and taxiways had to be in an acceptable condition prior to movements being allowed of the 'super heavies'?

 

[jb747]

Perhaps the pilots can answer - if there was a vestige of a 'soft spot' on a runway, would the landing of even an empty ('ferry flight') A380 cause the situation to deteriorate? Or would such an hypothetical situation never eventuate because the airline sending an A380 would have its procedures and liaison with airport staff in place to ensure that runways and taxiways had to be in an acceptable condition prior to movements being allowed of the 'super heavies'?

You'd either not go, or divert, if you found out in flight. The potential for very expensive damage is too great to consider.

And even that super light ferried A380 would still weigh about 300,000 kgs on landing. Mind you, that's light for a 380, and at that weight they love to float.

 

[katiebell]

The connectee from QF422 to QF73 was a CLPO - and he was furious about the delay because he was advised to go via SYD rather than QF95 via MEL. Easy to be smart in hindsight. The CSM told him to raise it with AJ!!!.

He transferred via Gate 15 at DomT3 which is the QF domestic to international terminal transfer gate.
Funny he rushed out the aircraft as soon as it was opened - always walk behind ground crew because they need to beep the aerobridge door open before you can go into terminal.

In fact the reason QF41 is delayed is because of the delayed inbound QF422.

CLPO = Chairmans Lounge Platinum One in cabin crew parlance

If the source of information is qantas.com it gives connections via SYD no matter how stupid (e.g MEL-HBA via SYD…). Call that "Spirit of Australia"?

 

[Melburnian1]

MNL-bound PR721 ex LHR and TK84 diverted to CRK, logical as they would otherwise be low on fuel. Hopefully QF19 makes it to MNL in a couple of hours.