Qantas Delays/Cancellations

[Melburnian1]

Re: General Qantas Delays/Cancellations/etc. Discussion

Why is it impossible? QF schedules around 100 minutes for the transit in DXB (as does EK when their aircraft transit to/from NZ) so 120 minutes should be plenty. My guess though it will leave around 11. The return flight only has an hour and a half buffer for a delay (because of duty limitations) so if it's still on the ground at 1210, it would be cancelled again, so it will be well and truly gone by then.

The delayed QF7 arrived DFW at 0912 with the delayed QF8 not departing DFW until 1132, a slow 140 minute turnaround.

Despite this, QF8 is still shown as arriving SYD at 2040 this evening. which if achieved would be a 47 minute gain on the timetable.

It will again be a race against the SYD curfew to see if the delayed (normally 1500 hours departure) QF11 to LAX can depart prior to 2300. QF forecasts that it will leave SYD at 2210 which as milehighclub points out is more or less achievable. Few would want to have to spend an extra night in SYD, least of all QF as this "costs."

 

[OATEK]

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The delayed QF7 arrived DFW at 0912 with the delayed QF8 not departing DFW until 1132, a slow 140 minute turnaround.

Despite this, QF8 is still shown as arriving SYD at 2040 this evening. which if achieved would be a 47 minute gain on the timetable.

It will again be a race against the SYD curfew to see if the delayed (normally 1500 hours departure) QF11 to LAX can depart prior to 2300. QF forecasts that it will leave SYD at 2210 which as milehighclub points out is more or less achievable. Few would want to have to spend an extra night in SYD, least of all QF as this "costs."

Looks like QF11 made the turn-around ok, departing at 22:10.

 

[Melburnian1]

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OATEK, you may be a trifle confused as the delayed QF11 is this afternoon's that should leave at 1500 hours but that has been rescheduled to depart at 2210, an hour and a half after QF8D (the delayed flight ex DFW) arrives in SYD.

 

[OATEK]

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OATEK, you may be a trifle confused as the delayed QF11 is this afternoon's that should leave at 1500 hours but that has been rescheduled to depart at 2210, an hour and a half after QF8D (the delayed flight ex DFW) arrives in SYD.

Should have had my glasses on!

 

[Melburnian1]

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The 'real' QF8 scheduled to depart DFW at 2010 on Tuesday 9 December (not the delayed departure from Monday 8 referred to above) is incurring a three hour delay with forecast off blocks in DFW at 2310. This is surprising because QF7 on Tuesday only arrived 37 minutes late in DFW at 1422, giving plenty of time in normal circumstances to service (and maintain) the aircraft in between flights. What's gone wrong this time?

The QF website expects the flight crew to improve on the schedule by 55 minutes with a suggested arrival time tomorrow morning (Thursday 11 December 2014) at 0810, 125 minutes late.

UPDATE: This Tuesday QF8 departed DFW at 2333.

 

[Quickstatus]

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I hope that all this A380 IRROPS stabilises itself before my QF11 on 16Dec...

 

[Melburnian1]

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QF8D (VH-OQL) is still a small number of minutes off from touching down in SYD, so its forecast 2040 arrival at the gate will not occur. It looks more like 2100.

Nonetheless with some snappy footwork it should be able to form QF11 to LAX and depart just before the 2300 curfew. The QF computer's prediction of a 2210 hours departure is unlikely given the numerous tasks in unloading, loading, fuelling and checking - not to mention the 'self loading freight' (who invented that term?) alighting and a new 'cargo' boarding. I assume that pretty close to 323,000 litres of fuel would be required for the next leg to LAX.

These delays and misfortunes to the A388 fleet could not come at a worse time because reading a September 2014 newspaper article reminded me that between 9 December 2014 and 20 January 2015, the SYD - DFW - SYD QF7/8 are operating daily. Utilisation of the 12 A388s in the QF fleet is now high (and higher than was the case a year ago, when they operated SYD-HKG-SYD less than daily, but not to or from DFW.)

 

[markis10]

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I'm at SYD at the moment. The "tarmac" closure or whatever it's called lasted around 45 minutes. Apparently the Qantas shuttle bus does not operate during these closure. So I took a cab: $25 from Dom to Intl!
Flights are resuming now. I'm in the F lounge so I don't care too much about delays!

psst There is a train!

 

[Melburnian1]

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The QF website shows QF11 as having departed SYD at 2249, seven hours and 49 minutes late. In contrast, Flightradar24.com - Live flight tracker! had suggested that VH-OQL was still at the gate, but by 2256 was showing the start of taxiing.

If the latter was correct, let's hope for the sake of QF12 passengers that QF receives a dispensation if takeoff is after 2300 tonight:

Guidelines for The Granting of Dispensations for Aircraft to Use Sydney Airport During Curfew Hours in Exceptional Circumstances

A late CP138 (timetabled ex blocks at 2220) has just taken off at about 2258.

Talk about cutting things fine!

UPDATE: QF11 took off at 2302 with forecast arrival in LAX being 1710 same day. Hopefully no delays will occur with the return working QF12.

 

[mannej]

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Cathay is CX, not CP.

 

[OATEK]

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Cathay is CX, not CP.

True, it is CX (IATA) or CPA (ICAO) depending on the code used (eg Flightaware uses CPA for tracking).

 

[defurax]

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Have the curfew restrictions changed at SYD? I'm in the J lounge and I see QF7421 with a scheduled departure time of 23:55.

 

[markis10]

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Have the curfew restrictions changed at SYD? I'm in the J lounge and I see QF7421 with a scheduled departure time of 23:55.

Goes most nights, its a BA146 carrying non self loading cargo. Not covered by the curfew.

 

[BD1959]

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Goes most nights, its a BA146 carrying non self loading cargo. Not covered by the curfew.

A BAe146, surely, markis10!?!

Regards,

BD

 

[Melburnian1]

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Once again due to weather (storms in BNE I assume), there is a lot of late running. We might use the term 'JohnK special' (to mangle the cereal brand's name) in lieu of 'storm' in honour of a well known AFF contributor.

While QF is not the only airline affected this evening, a couple of examples are QF547 from BNE that is running a suggested 129 minutes late and due into SYD at 2139 instead of 1930. QF545 from the 'Sunshine State' capital should normally arrive SYD at 1900 but is a quarter of an hour away from SYD and should be there at 2128.

QF976 was meant to depart BNE at 1655 but took off (note the subtle difference) at 2009 - just five minutes or so ago.

These late afternoon storms must create a lot of worry among evening passengers as to whether their airline will get them to their destination on the same day, which is not part of most airlines' conditions of carriage these days, a fact known to many AFFers but perhaps not so well known to occasional airline patrons.

It isn't always reported but on nights like this, some travellers must have to be accommodated overnight if there are rooms at the inn.

 

[markis10]

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A BAe146, surely, markis10!?!

Regards,

BD

Not the ones operated by AAe, they are old when BAe was BA

 

[BD1959]

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Not the ones operated by AAe, they are old when BAe was BA

Aren't the really old ones the HS146??

LCY would allow ONLY these at one stage...

Regards,

BD

 

[defurax]

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Goes most nights, its a BA146 carrying non self loading cargo. Not covered by the curfew.

Makes sense to put that flight on the display in the lounge?

 

[Melburnian1]

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QF553, QF555 and QF557 (the 1825 hours, 1855 and 1925) flights from BNE to SYD were all cancelled tonight, presumably due to the northbounds that form each being so late that none could arrive back in SYD by 2300.

This is highly unusual. I'd like to be an hotelier in BNE tonight, assuming that most passengers travelling north from SYD or MEL made it but these folks attempting to head to SYD were unable to do so.

I hope passengers do not have to wait too long in the morning to be found a spare seat on a flight to SYD.

Late cancellations also play havoc with crew rostering and particularly plane positioning. The QF website is yet to indicate whether any Friday 12 December flights from SYD to BNE will be cancelled.

 

[defurax]

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QF30 HKG-MEL is now scheduled at 23:30 (4 hours late). SWMBO told me the lounge attendant said the flight was now delayed indefinitely, but didn't mention if people will be booked into hotels.