Qantas Delays/Cancellations

[docjames]

And QF50 has finally departed at 2037 11/10 to arrive 0515 13/10.

 

[Melburnian1]

Also on Saturday 13 October 2018, QF11, the often punctual 1035 hours SYD to LAX A388 departed 37 late with arrival suggested as 0656 same day, 36 late.

 

[docjames]

Any word come out about what happened to QF50?

 

[Quickstatus]

Any word come out about what happened to QF50?

VH-ZNC operating as QF50D delayed 1 day departed 11/10 instead of 10/10 about 1.5hrs before QF50, and arriving at 0530 this morning 13/10

Why?. I have no information though it was on the MEL-PER-LHR-PER-MEL-SFO marathon before it decided to pull up stumps in SFO

 

[Himeno]

QF1520 was 40 mins late today. Text message sent out 3 hours before flight with 30 min delay. Seems 2 717s went unserviceable in BNE.

 

[Melburnian1]

On Wednesday 17 October 2018, QF27, the 1235 hours SYD to SCL departed 27 late with same day arrival expected 32 late.

 

[Quickstatus]

QF12 LAX-SYD departure delayed by 3 hrs until 0130am 18/10/18. Estimated arrival 2:20 late 19/10/18

Was it to avoid the fog at SYD this am?

 

[jb747]

QF12 LAX-SYD departure delayed by 3 hrs until 0130am 18/10/18. Estimated arrival 2:20 late 19/10/18

Was it to avoid the fog at SYD this am?

I doubt it. You can land in fog, as long as you have the appropriate alternate or holding fuel. The aircraft returned to blocks after push back, but I have no idea why.

 

[docjames]

Any word come out about what happened to QF50?

VH-ZNC operating as QF50D delayed 1 day departed 11/10 instead of 10/10 about 1.5hrs before QF50, and arriving at 0530 this morning 13/10

Why?. I have no information though it was on the MEL-PER-LHR-PER-MEL-SFO marathon before it decided to pull up stumps in SFO

Looks like we'll never know!

 

[JohnPhelan]

QF12 LAX-SYD departure delayed by 3 hrs until 0130am 18/10/18. Estimated arrival 2:20 late 19/10/18

Was it to avoid the fog at SYD this am?

Wouldn't have thought they'd have known about it that far ahead. QF74 certainly didn't - it crossed the coast south of Brisbane, got to the Hunter Valley, then turned around and flew back to BNE, due to fog in SYD.

 

[Quickstatus]

They can sometimes

 

[jb747]

Wouldn't have thought they'd have known about it that far ahead. QF74 certainly didn't - it crossed the coast south of Brisbane, got to the Hunter Valley, then turned around and flew back to BNE, due to fog in SYD.

That doesn't mean they didn't know about it. It simply means that they didn't have sufficient holding or diversion fuel, so they flew to their last point of diversion before turning to Brisbane. That can be an effective ploy if the weather is forecast to clear.

The forecast they would have departed with, made no mention of fog. Even later forecasts only had a 40% probability of broken cloud at 400'. So the forecast was nothing like the actual weather.

 

[Melburnian1]

jb747, from when you've been flying back to Oz or within it in recent years, on what percentage of days does the BOM get the forecast badly wrong? It likes to claim it is very accurate.

 

[David F]

from when you've been flying back to Oz or within it in recent years, on what percentage of days does the BOM get the forecast badly wrong? It likes to claim it is very accurate.

Closer to time more accurate BOM is but they are not as accurate as they claim. They get forecast wrong quite often but "badly wrong" would suggest 1-2 % at most . And of course no harm in forecasting possible storms etc and they then dont happen - better than other way around - but it is simply not as accurate as they claim despite the "science" behind it

QF 1580 Sydney to Sunshine Coast last Saturday Oct 20th was 4.5 hrs late, no explanation given - only Qantaslink I guess. Annoying thing was not the initial 3 am message for a 10 am flight but the follow up one 40 mins later even though first one answered and confirmed! Got to listen to Braithwaite screech out Horses next door to lounge while waiting.... and was there for bar opening at midday. Swings and roundabouts

 

[jb747]

jb747, from when you've been flying back to Oz or within it in recent years, on what percentage of days does the BOM get the forecast badly wrong? It likes to claim it is very accurate.

I guess it depends upon how you define things. There isn’t a great deal of difference between weather that will have no holding or alternate requirements, and weather that will stop you from going to destination. So, 100’ difference between the forecast and actual can make a world of difference.

The fact I never believe forecasts, and tend to plan according, generally keeps me out of trouble. But, I think about 20% of the time, the forecasts could get you into trouble. Note though, that it’s especially a problem for long haul flights.

 

[jb747]

Closer to time more accurate BOM is but they are not as accurate as they claim. They get forecast wrong quite often but "badly wrong" would suggest 1-2 % at most . And of course no harm in forecasting possible storms etc and they then dont happen - better than other way around.

Actually there is.... Carriage of unnecessary fuel, and offloading of freight and or passengers, don’t come for free.

 

[David F]

Actually there is.... Carriage of unnecessary fuel, and offloading of freight and or passengers, don’t come for free.

Well was referring to BOM in general and not just in reference to impact on flights but ok. I remember one or two years ago when it seemed the Ice Age was heading to New York they cancellled flights, closed airports etc and it never really eventuated but then again if they hadn’t and it did happen imagine the chaos then. Not sure how often what you refer to happens because someone believed a misleading forecast rather than waiting for actual event ?

 

[Melburnian1]

Sunday 28 October 2018 finds QF63 likely to depart SYD 45 late at 1220, arriving JNB 35 late. This will mean a slight delay to QF64 but going on previous runs, it may pick up some time on a total journey basis.

 

[Melburnian1]

QF64 from JNB to SYD is not estimated to arrive until 1742 on Monday 29 October, 127 minutes tardy. See above re QF63 delay on Sunday.

The 1755 hours late afternoon QF73 is expected to depart 35 late at 1830. However from the gate numbers, this B744 flight looks to be formed by the predicted five minute early arrival of QF28 from distant SCL at 1735. If so, 73 may not push back until about 1920 hours.

QF11, the A388 from SYD to LAX is often punctual but on Monday 29 commenced pushing back at 1141, 91 late so arrival same day is suggested as 54 minutes behind the timetabled 0600. This may slightly delay the USA transcon. B789 QF11.

 

[Himeno]

QF11, the A388 from SYD to LAX is often punctual but on Monday 29 commenced pushing back at 1141, 91 late so arrival same day is suggested as 54 minutes behind the timetabled 0600. This may slightly delay the USA transcon. B789 QF11.

That explains it.
Taxing in from the north runways to Eagles Nest about 30 mins ago. Saw VH-ZND still parked at the TBIT gate at 0915. It looks like it pushed back just after the E75 went past.