Qantas Delays/Cancellations

[Melburnian1]

B738 VH-VZX on the Sunday 7 August 2022 QF91, the 0740 hours early morning SYD - NOU did not take off until 1138 hours despite the aircraft having been in Sydney from just before 1945 hours mid evening on Saturday. Arrival is suggested as 1459 hours, 209 minutes behind schedule. To state the obvious, QF92 back down to SYD will be badly delayed.

B789 VH-ZNE on yesterday's 2110 hours mid evening QF93 (MEL - LAX) wasn't airborne until 2237 but arrival was just 14 late at 1915 hours same day.

QF9, the B789 at 1515 hours MEL-PER-LHR is forecast to depart at 1635 this afternoon, 80 minutes tardy.

The 1350 hours SYD - CGK, QF41, has had some late running in recent days with Sunday 7 no exception, as it is displaying as pushing back at a suggested 1525 hours, meaning QF42 patrons will board late this evening in the Indonesian major centre.

 

[tomlee1986]

B738 VH-VZX on the Sunday 7 August 2022 QF91, the 0740 hours early morning SYD - NOU did not take off until 1138 hours despite the aircraft having been in Sydney from just before 1945 hours mid evening on Saturday. Arrival is suggested as 1459 hours, 209 minutes behind schedule. To state the obvious, QF92 back down to SYD will be badly delayed.

B789 VH-ZNE on yesterday's 2110 hours mid evening QF93 (MEL - LAX) wasn't airborne until 2237 but arrival was just 14 late at 1915 hours same day.

QF9, the B789 at 1515 hours MEL-PER-LHR is forecast to depart at 1635 this afternoon, 80 minutes tardy.

The 1350 hours SYD - CGK, QF41, has had some late running in recent days with Sunday 7 no exception, as it is displaying as pushing back at a suggested 1525 hours, meaning QF42 patrons will board late this evening in the Indonesian major centre.

QF91 is on the news today because of flames at the engine just prior to take off

https://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/incidents/qantas-plane-shut-down-after-scary-engine-fire/news-story/e70577ac3eba954b9937612d9fa3388f

 

[Melburnian1]

One I missed is QF64 from JNB overnight to SYD, suggested as arriving on Sunday 7 August at 1428 hours, 68 minutes late with B789 VH-ZNB.

Thank you toomlee1986 for the most informative post above!

 

[789nerd]

This mornings 789 operated QF435 (SYD-MEL) was cancelled, with the seemingly still troubled VH-ZNF instead positioning SYD-MEL at 13:58 as QF6017.
As noted by Melburnian1, this means tonights QF9 will be delayed, possibly beyond the current 80 minutes at MEL & 65 minutes at PER.
Meanwhile ZNJ left MEL with LAX bound QF95 only 20 minutes late.
US departures saw QF94 (ZNH) depart LAX on time, while QF8 (ZNG) departed DFW 55 minutes late.

 

[jb747]

QF91 is on the news today because of flames at the engine just prior to take off

Worth noting that the article also says "Qantas said engineers had since assessed the plane and cleared it to fly, with reports of a fire believed to be false."

 

[Melburnian1]

Continuing with Sunday 7 August, QF9 (1515 hours ex MEL) was in the sky at 1654 with B789 VH-ZNF, so PER arrival should be 1840, 85 late.

Interestingly this aircraft worked down empty as QF6017 from SYD to MEL, taking off at 1358 and arriving at 1511 hours. One doubts this is normal, so perhaps another B789 suddenly became unavailable.

B789 VH-ZNB on long haul QF7, the 1540 hours scheduled from Sydney, was airborne at 1646 so predicted same day arrival becomes 1642, 42 minutes behind the timetable.

A333 VH-QPF on QF104 arrived SYD (ex HNL) late this afternoon at 1758 hours, 33 minutes tardy, so not nearly as bad as many other days.

A332 VH-EBG operated QF440 from MEL to SYD on Sunday 7, the 1200 'high noon', taking off at 1258 and arriving at a domestic gate at 1405, 40 behind. It then transferred to the international terminal and formed an even later QF41 than predicted, taking off at 1640 with mooted arrival tonight at 2103 hours, 138 minutes tardy. This will inevitably delay QF42, the redeye back to SYD, until at least 2220 hours in pushback, 130 minutes late. Perhaps it'll pick up some time down to Sydney.

 

[789nerd]

Continuing with Sunday 7 August, QF9 (1515 hours ex MEL) was in the sky at 1654 with B789 VH-ZNF, so PER arrival should be 1840, 85 late.

Interestingly this aircraft worked down empty as QF6017 from SYD to MEL, taking off at 1358 and arriving at 1511 hours. One doubts this is normal, so perhaps another B789 suddenly became unavailable.

No, as noted earlier, B789 VH-ZNF itself was the culprit. It should have operated QF435, and with no suitable replacement, that flight was cancelled (not for the first time, since the switch to the Saturday QF438 & Sunday QF435 for domestic B789 positioning flights in early April).

 

[789nerd]

B789 VH-ZNC arrived in Melbourne12 minutes early this evening at 18:28 with QF10 from Perth, and would normally have operated QF93 MEL-LAX later in the evening, with a departure time of 21:10. However, that flight has been delayed until 12 noon Monday 8th - which appears to be a crewing issue.

 

[Melburnian1]

B789 VH-ZNC arrived in Melbourne12 minutes early this evening at 18:28 with QF10 from Perth, and would normally have operated QF93 MEL-LAX later in the evening, with a departure time of 21:10. However, that flight has been delayed until 12 noon Monday 8th - which appears to be a crewing issue.

QF suggests that QF94, the 2130 hours LAX - MEL on Sunday 7 August will instead depart at 1050 hours on Monday 8 to arrive MEL at 1920 on Tuesday 9 during the early evening, 800 minutes late.

However as QF93 is only predicted to arrive LAX at 0920 hours on Monday, it's a tight turnaround and rather optimistic, assuming it's the same aircraft.

QF42, the redeye from CGK down to SYD has A332 VH-EBG and should arrive at its gate on Monday 8 129 minutes late at 0814 hours, unavoidable because QF41 yesterday was significantly tardy.

 

[789nerd]

Further on Sunday's QF93, it has now been pushed back to a 15:00 SYD departure today / 12:20 LAX arrival : 17 hrs 50 min late. QF94 is now scheduled to leave LAX 90 minutes later at 13:50 with a Sydney arrival of 22:20 : 16 hrs 20 min late.

 

[Melburnian1]

Continuing with Monday 8, QF23 (0950 hours SYD - BKK, A333 VH-QPJ) was not in the sky until 1115 hours so suggested at gate arrival is 1732, 52 late, ensuring tonight's 1810 hours redeye QF24 is delayed off its blocks.

A332 VH-EBQ on the early morning 0710 hours MEL-AKL (QF151) took off at a delayed 0828 so arrival was 1333 hours, 48 minutes behind.

 

[milehighclub]

QF 9 has diverted to Frankfurt

 

[kelvedon]

QF 9 has diverted to Frankfurt

Reportedly a death on board

 

[Melburnian1]

The overnight delayed QF93 has become QF93d on Monday 8 August 2022. It took off from MEL at 1619, so expected same day LAX arrival for B789 VH-ZNC is 1156 hours, so its turnaround to form an overnight delayed QF94(D) at 1350 back across the Pacific to MEL should be easier than 789nerd had indicated above.

 

[Melburnian1]

Reportedly a death on board

Qantas' flight status and FR24 indicate it should have departed FRA at 0700 hours for LHR but it is still there.

Given it arrived at about 0635 hours German time, a presumed stay of 25 minutes for such an event seems wildly optimistic. Monday morning is a peak period so was there a spare gate available (easier than having to deal with the matter on the apron)?

FR24 suggests the Captain may have decided to divert some time after passing overhead close to Frankfurt. Please correct me, but in such unfortunate circumstances this isn't an airline's operations centre's 'call', but solely the Captain's?

RIP.

 

[Melburnian1]

The diverted QF9 has further changed to an expected departure from FRA on Monday 8 August to 1000 with LHR arrival, given the hour time difference, at 1030 hours. This will result in QF10, the 1155 hours back to PER/MEL departing late.

 

[Flyerqf]

The diverted QF9 has further changed to an expected departure from FRA on Monday 8 August to 1000 with LHR arrival, given the hour time difference, at 1030 hours. This will result in QF10, the 1155 hours back to PER/MEL departing late.

It’s been delayed further to 1000 on Tuesday.

Unfortunately there is going to be rolling delays with a 24 hour delayed QF10 and 16 hours delayed QF94.

Sad news to hear of a death onboard QF9.

 

[Flyerqf]

QF93 is cancelled for Tuesday due to the delayed (24 hrs) inbound QF10.

 

[milehighclub]

FR24 suggests the Captain may have decided to divert some time after passing overhead close to Frankfurt. Please correct me, but in such unfortunate circumstances this isn't an airline's operations centre's 'call', but solely the Captain's?

Capt absolutely has the final call, but usually medical diversions aren't even called by the company, they are made by Medaire, who is the provider of inflight medical support for Qantas (and a huge number of others). They will usually make the call to divert because a passenger needs to be in a hospital. Then depending on the severity and location of the aircraft, other decisions start coming into play.

I suspect that they diverted because someone became extremely unwell and died on the ground or during the diversion. An aircraft wouldn't divert for an already deceased passenger if declared onboard. Medaire can be contacted relatively quickly but its not instant as the call from the aircraft to Medaire is actually patched through Qantas IOC. So the pilots call IOC, IOC patch the aircraft to Medlink. Then the IOC simply listen to the call and if they start hearing things about diversions, then the IOC can start making plans without interrupting and the need for a 2nd call after. But given how serious this may have been, the call could have been made to divert to nearest airport and no call to Medaire and to simply get the aircraft on the ground ASAP. If the crew were doing CPR, it almost would've triggered this without the call to Medaire. Or the call could've been made to divert, but a call still made to Medaire. The other factor to take into account is that Medaire can only be called from the flight deck, so you also have to relay information from back/forth from flight deck to cabin.

 

[tomlee1986]

Reportedly a death on board

may that passenger rest in peace, its always sad to have someone pass away, and that passenger has passed when not at home country is even more so...