Qantas Delays/Cancellations

[789nerd]

Friday : the overnight QF10 was 20 minutes late departing Hathrow, and lost another 5 minutes into Perth. This grew to 46 minutes before push back in Perth a few minutes ago. The ETA into Melbourne shows that with favourable winds the delay is cut back to 25 minutes for a 20:50 AEDT arrival this evening.

 

[Melburnian1]

QF45, the 1800 hours 20 January MEL-DPS B738 is expected to push back shortly, an hour late.

UPDATE: B738 VH-XZI arrived ex WEL in MEL at 1749 hours, 54 minutes tardy as QF172, and so was able to take off at 1917 hours as QF45. DPS arrival is estimated as 2201 hours, 61 minutes late.

 

[Melburnian1]

QF103, the 2040 hours SYD-HNL is so often late it's hardly news.

However on 20 January, this departure was displaying as altered to 2200 hours. Later advice indicates '2230'. I cannot see it on FR24: occasionally this is due to buildings blocking the signal but often it's a bad sign of further delays. Let's hope for the sake of passengers on QF103 and the returning QF104 that it doesn't miss curfew.

A333 VH-QPA is on QF25 (2135 hours SYD-HND) airborne about 45 minutes late at 2239 hours.

 

[Melburnian1]

QF103 (see previous post) has been displaying as further delayed to 2250 on 20 January ex Sydney, but that time has passed. It isn't visible on FR24, so is unlikely to have departed.

Not a great sign.

 

[Melburnian1]

On Friday 20 January 2023, QF103 took off from SYD at 2323 hors, so must have received a dispensation re the 2300 hours curfew. VH-QPF should arrive HNL on Friday morning (just) at 1159 hours, 154 minutes late. QF104 will be similarly late.

This morning (21 January) VH-QPA on QF25, the SYD-HND redeye, arrived at 0601 hours, 36 minutes behind schedule.

'The 20' with A332 VH-EBO from MNL to SYD pulled into its allocated gate at 0701 hours, 46 minutes behind its timetable.

A388 VH-OQG continued the QF2 tradtion of inability to arrive anything near time with gate arrival in SYD (ex SIN) at a 69 minute late time of 0719 hours today. VH-OQK on QF1 northwest bound is remarkably identical, having jetted into the sky at 0116 from Singapore, so London Heathrow mooted arrival becomes 0724, also 69 behind.

VH-EBS operated yesterday's QF51, the 1105 hours late morning BNE up to SIN, arriving just three minutes late at 1708, but the return to MEL as QF36 wasn't as timely. This scheduled 1940 hours flight was airborne at 2156 with this morning's gate arrival 0823 hours, 133 minutes tardy.

QF52 from SIN has a generally excellent timekeeping record into BNE at its scheduled 0505 hours bright and early, but this morning's with A333 VH-QPI broke that trend with a time at gate of 0545. Unusually, of the last five arrivals, one other has been half an hour late while on 15 January EBK was 116 minutes late on arrival.

 

[Melburnian1]

In more on Saturday 21 January, QF68 from BLR arrived in SYD half an hour late at 1110 hours with A332 VH-EBM. The plane formed QF19, the 1225 hours SYD-MNL airborne 62 minutes later for suggested at gate arrival tonight local time at 1802 hours, 32 minutes late.

It doesn't look 'normal' for such a short SYD layover so QFi may be an A333 short.

VH-EBO is on the SYD to BLR QF67 that should arrive at 1627, 42 minutes behind schedule.

 

[Melburnian1]

Continuing with 21 January, QF11 (1120 hours SYD-LAX operated by A388 VH-OQG) was airborne at 1339 so same day arrival is expected to be 0754 hours, 109 minutes late. The previous four flights have been between 56 and 83 minutes late arriving. Not great.

B789 VH-ZNI on the afternoon 1400 hours MEL-DFW (QF21) was in the sky at 1445 for predicted at gate arrival (also same day) of 1323 hours, 38 minutes behind its timetable.

 

[MEL_Traveller]

Should the title of the thread be changed to ‘flights departing ON TIME’?

It might save a fair bit of work!!

 

[Melburnian1]

Should the title of the thread be changed to ‘flights departing ON TIME’?

It might save a fair bit of work!!

That point was made by jb747 a few months ago. Unfortunately with QFi flights, there's some truth to what he and you suggest.

If I recorded "officlal lateness", i.e. flights arriving more than 15 minutes late at their gate or designated final position, the picture would be even worse. However to avoid clogging these threads I only comment on half hourly or worse delays.

 

[Melburnian1]

On Sunday 22 January 2023, QF23 (1030 hours SYD-BKK) has been displaying as departing instead at 1115 hour, but that time has passed.

A332 VH-EBS on Saturday 20's redeye (1815 hours DEL-MEL) was in the sky at 1923 so Sunday 22 expected at gate arrival becomes 1238 hours, 33 minutes late.

A388 VH-OQH arrived in SYD this morning as QF2 from SIN and previously LHR at 0705 hours, 55 minutes behind. This offering so often loses time on the ground in SIN. 'The 11' (1120 hours SYD-LAX) is projected to depart 59 minutes late at the very exact time of 1219 hours.

The next QF2 (VH-OQK) did not take off from London until 2121 hours last night (0821 AEDT this morning) so expected at gate Singapore arrival becomes 1819, 49 minutes behind schedule, meaning another likely late arrival tomorrow morning in Sydney.

A333 VH-QPE had been in SYD since last night mid evening but managed to take off from SYD as the 0935 hours to ICN, QF87, at 1045 hours so arrival in what can be an icy part of the world should be at 1908 hours, 48 minutes behind. This northbound has had some late runing in the past week but mostly prior to that its punctuality was good.

B789 VH-ZNB on 'the 93' from MEL to LAX (schedule is to push back at 1100 hours) is delayed until at least 1150.

 

[Melburnian1]

QF23 on 22 January was airborne at 1159 hours so afternoon BKK arrival should be at about 1702 hours, 52 minutes tardy.

A388 VH-OQD on the 1120 hours SYD-LAX, QF11, was expected to push back later than previously advised (see above) at 1245 but that time has passed.

The lunchtime 1230 hours SYD to SIN, QF81 is predicted to push back 40 minutes late.

QF71/72 on the daily Perth WA to Singapore route and return have normally excellent timekeeping. Yesterday A332 VH-EBG on the 1125 hours was in the sky at 1241, arriving at 1741, 56 late. QF72 returning was far worse, with this scheduled 1915 hours flight ex Singapore not in the sky until 0142 on Sunday 22, arriving PER at 0628, 363 minutes late. Today's QF71 is expected to depart at 1435 hours, 190 minutes late. It's extremely unusual for these flights to be significantly delayed on two consecutive days.

The delayed QF93 on Sunday 22 (see above) took off from Melbourne at 1216 hours. A 55 minute late, same day arrival in Los Angeles is predicted: 0715 hours.

QF137 (B738 VH-XZH, the 1030 hours SYD-CHC in the sky 75 minutes later) should arrive at its gate at around 1629 hours, 59 minutes late.

 

[789nerd]

QF22 DFW-MEL (B789 VH-ZNI) pushed back on time and approx 30 minutes later commenced take-off roll on 18L, only to abort after 600m and take the first taxiway to return and eventually take off 11 minutes later. Further problems with US control staff ? As yet there is no update on likely arrival into Melbourne.

 

[Flyerqf]

Further problems with US control staff ?

Looks like QF22 stopped at the top of the runway. Maybe they weren't ready to depart? They went to back of the line so other aircraft could depart. They didn’t go back to gate at all.

 

[Melburnian1]

One I missed earlier today was B738 VH-VZT on QF1010 from SYD up to NAN, the 0835 hours that took off at 0936 hours, arriving at its gate at 1429, 44 minutes late.

QF102 (the return) was the 1435 hours airborne about an hour late at 1552 hours.

However the aircraft turned back to NAN as allegedly there were fumes emanating from a galley oven (though whether this is fact or media supposition I don't know). The aircraft is still in Fiji so passengers and crew have been placed in (an) hotel(s).

This is the 5th time this week a QFi or QFd aircraft has had a serious problem that's got into the media.

It's a very small percentage of flights operated this week but that won't matter to vast swathes of Australians who'll conclude, rightly or incorrectly, that QF's safety standards are not what they were. This may be unfair, but it will be discussed at BBQs and even by corporates.

These multiple incidents aren't assisting QF's already greatly tarnished reputation, especially given over the years it's traded on its supposed great safety.

UPDATE: a different media report says the crew asked for a 'priority' landing, not a higher priority 'emergency/mayday' one.

Will this aircraft be back in service tomorrow morning to operate from Fiji to Sydney?

 

[Rangalad]

One I missed earlier today was B738 VH-VZT on QF1010 from SYD up to NAN, the 0835 hours that took off at 0936 hours, arriving at its gate at 1429, 44 minutes late.

QF102 (the return) was the 1435 hours airborne about an hour late at 1552 hours.

However the aircraft turned back to NAN as allegedly there were fumes emanating from a galley oven (though whether this is fact or media supposition I don't know). The aircraft is still in Fiji so passengers and crew have been placed in (an) hotel(s).

This is the 5th time this week a QFi or QFd aircraft has had a serious problem that's got into the media.

It's a very small percentage of flights operated this week but that won't matter to vast swathes of Australians who'll conclude, rightly or incorrectly, that QF's safety standards are not what they were. This may be unfair, but it will be discussed at BBQs and even by corporates.

These multiple incidents aren't assisting QF's already greatly tarnished reputation, especially given over the years it's traded on its supposed great safety.

UPDATE: a different media report says the crew asked for a 'priority' landing, not a higher priority 'emergency/mayday' one.

Will this aircraft be back in service tomorrow morning to operate from Fiji to Sydney?

O/T- Virgin had two air turnbacks to DRW in the past 48 hours.
Nothing in the media.

 

[Melburnian1]

O/T- Virgin had two air turnbacks to DRW in the past 48 hours.
Nothing in the media.

Rangalad, could you post full details in the Virgin Delays/Cancellations thread?

 

[Melburnian1]

On Sunday 22 January, QF19 from SYD arrived MNL at 1738 hours, only eight minute slate with A333 VH-QPA,, class leader. However the return 1920 hours QF20 wasn't in the sky until 2056 hours so Monday 23 arrival becomes 0729 hours, 74 minutes late.

QF2 from LHR and more recently SIN had A388 VH-OQK this morning, arriving in SYD at 0702 hours, 52 minutes late. This is 'normal' for 'the 2': it doesn't often arrive in Sydney within the 15 minute window regarded as 'officially on time'.

A333 VH-QPE on QF88 (the redeye from ICN) is again late, with SYD arrival at gate predicted for 0939 hours, 84 minutes behind schedule.

Colleague QPD arrived BKK yesterday as QF23 at 1705 (55 down) but this morning returning as QF24, it's somewhat better with SYD at gate time becoming 39 minutes behind the timetable at 0809 hours.

As previously noted, QF71 from PER to SIN yesterday (A332 VH-EBA) was baldy late, arriving at 1942 hours, 177 minutes tardy. It was inevitable that QF72 returning would be afflicted. This 1915 hours evening flight was in the sky at 2201, arriving PER this morning at 0241 hours, 136 minutes behind the timetable.

I don't normally record early arrivals but this morning, B789 VH-ZNI on QF94 from LAX that on Saturday night took off at 2118 (13 minutes after scheduled pushback) arrived MEL at 0647 hours, an incredible 73 minutes early.

Yesterday's QF1 from Sydney arrived SIN 25 minutes late at 2235 hours with A388 VH-OQH but did not become airborne until 0102 hours, 67 minutes after the timetabled 2355 hours pushback. Therefore arrival in London local time today should be about 0658 hours, 43 late. This is fairly common for 'the 1' with excess time on the ground in Singapore seemingly an all-too-common problem.

 

[Melburnian1]

A388 VH-OQB on QF1 (Sunday 22 January 2040 hours LHR-SIN-SYD) was airborne at 2153 so on Monday 23, arrival at its intermediate stop should be 68 minutes late at 1838 hours, making on time arrival in Sydney on Tuesday 24 impossible.

 

[789nerd]

Monday : Sunday's QF10 LHR-PER (B789 VH-ZNC) was 91 minutes late pushing back at Heathrow, and another 45 minutes elapsed before take off, thus recent arrival in Perth was two hours late. The onwards leg is shown with a 1 hr 55 minute delay at both ends for a 22:20 AEDT arrival in Melbourne.

 

[789nerd]

The delayed QF93 on Sunday 22 (see above) took off from Melbourne at 1216 hours. A 55 minute late, same day arrival in Los Angeles is predicted: 0715 hours.

Today's QF93 was also delayed - slightly less so, B789 VH-ZNI being 34 minutes late pushing back in Melbourne, with delayed arrival in Los Angeles of 30 minutes at 06:50 PST

Edit : Oops somehow lost part of this post : The Sunday return QF94 has been delayed 2 hours 10 minutes for a Los Angeles departure of 23:15 PST & Melbourne arrival Tuesday of 09:05 AEDT, 65 minutes late.