Qantas Delays/Cancellations

[789nerd]

QF5 (1820 hours SYD-PER-FCO) has again been given a revised departure from its origin: 2045 hours.

Sydney Airport reported gate closed at 20:49 - no sign on FR24 yet.

 

[Melburnian1]

In what's becoming a saga, the first (resuming) QF5 is estimated now to depart at 2115 hours, 175 minutes late. The predicted departure from PER becomes 0145 hours on Sunday 18, also 175 late according to FR24. At 2110 AEST, like 789nerd earlier reported, it still wasn't visible on the FR24 map of SYD - when it is, usually a good sign.

 

[Melburnian1]

QF5 (B789 VH-ZNC) just departed at 2136 hours, 196 minutes behind schedule: two or three minutes before, I'd looked at the FR24 map of SYD: it wasn't visible. QF has changed its predicted FCO arrival to 1150 hours on Sunday 18, local time (1950 AEST).

It was in the sky from SYD at 2151 hours on Saturday 17 June.

 

[Flyerqf]

Didn't QF say they have a new idea called keeping spare aircraft in case of problems?

They did have a spare. Given QF64 was due back into SYD this afternoon and is delayed until tomorrow morning, all scheduled 789 flights out of SYD today have departed. Albeit QF5 departed 3 hours late, due to the spare leaving mx

 

[Melburnian1]

A388 VH-OQK arrived SYD on Saturday night, 17 June 2023 at 2240 hours, 895 minutes late.

On Sunday 18, it was off blocks in SYD at 0621 hours as QF1D (the Saturday 1510 hours), 911 minutes late. It took off at 0640. The SIN intermdiate stop should be from about 1319 hours local time. QF still suggests it will depart SIN at 1350, which is impossible. A more likely time might be 1510 at the earliest. Maybe LHR arrival will be at 2145 or so, 790 minutes late if no further delays.

We'll then see if the Sunday night QF2 (the 2055 hours, unable to depart before about 2330, again at the absolute earliest) is given a dispensation as per Quickstatus' excellent comments above. My guess is 'yes' as pre-COVID, this is what tended to occur.

B789 VH-ZNC on the badly delayed "initial for 2023" QF5 was in PER on Sunday morning from 0039 hours until becoming airborne at 0227. FCO arrival should be approximately 1206 hours, 196 minutes late. Maybe the 1050 hours QF6 (FCO down to PER and across to SYD) could depart at 1350 (FR claims '1340'), and perhaps pick up some time southeast bound. SYD arrival tomorrow is likely after 1800 (the timetable is 1605 late afternoon).

In better news, FR24 has rescinded its display yesterday that QF1 on Sunday would depart Sydney at 0600 on Monday 19: it now appears to be pushing back on time, so hopefully no problems.

 

[Melburnian1]

QF36 arriving in MEL this morning (Sunday 18) at 0610 hours with A333 VH-QPD was half an hour late.

QF20 from MNL to SYD was further delayed, arriving this morning at 0726, 46 late with A332 VH-EBQ.

For at least its fifth consecutive time, QF67 (0905 hours SYD-BLR) is delayed. A332 VH-EBQ on Sunday 18 June took off at 1009 hours so arrival at gate looks to be approximately 1714, 54 minutes tardy.

Today's QF68 BLR-SYD arrival (EBR) should be shortly at 1059 hours, also as luck would have it 54 late.

The 0850 hours SYD-AKL QF143 (B738 VH-VZK) was up up and away at 0941 for predicted on blocks time of 1425 hours, half an hour behind schedule. This has a generous layover before running back to either MEL or BNE.

QF63 seems to suddenly have different scheduled departure times from SYD of 0930, 0940 or 1000 hours. Today it's the latter, but not expected to push back until 1135 hours, so again, tonight's 64 will be late.

 

[Melburnian1]

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[789nerd]

QF63 seems to suddenly have different scheduled departure times from SYD of 0930, 0940 or 1000 hours. Today it's the latter, but not expected to push back until 1135 hours, so again, tonight's 64 will be late.

This delay mainly due to the flight being operated by VH-ZNH, after its completion of the seriously delayed Friday QF63/QF64 rotation.

B789 VH-ZNC on the badly delayed "initial for 2023" QF5 was in PER on Sunday morning from 0039 hours until becoming airborne at 0227. FCO arrival should be approximately 1206 hours, 196 minutes late. Maybe the 1050 hours QF6 (FCO down to PER and across to SYD) could depart at 1350 (FR claims '1340'), and perhaps pick up some time southeast bound. SYD arrival tomorrow is likely after 1800 (the timetable is 1605 late afternoon).

The other thing this means, is that the aircraft is unlikely to turn around in Sydney to operate another QF5/QF6 rotation as happened quite often last season. Certainly Qantas is currently not showing a delay for the 18:20 Monday QF5 departure.

 

[Melburnian1]

The other thing this means, is that the aircraft is unlikely to turn around in Sydney to operate another QF5/QF6 rotation as happened quite often last season.

Good point: while time consuming to find previous discussion on these blogs, my memory is the plane from QF5/QF6 often did back-to-back two return trips, though not three, as operating days may not have allowed the latter.

 

[Melburnian1]

This delay mainly due to the flight being operated by VH-ZNH, after its completion of the seriously delayed Friday QF63/QF64 rotation.

B789 VH-ZNH on Sunday 18 June was airborne at 1230 so at gate QF63 arrival in JNB should be about 1824 hours in the early evening, 134 minutes behind the timetable. The 1740 hours JNB-SYD (QF64) may be able to have its blocks removed at approximately 2005 if all goes well, so it could be about two hours late (or less?) into SYD on Monday afternoon, 19 June 2023.

QF19, the 1215 SYD-MNL, has been delayed to a 1310 hours proposed pushback.

 

[789nerd]

Good point: while time consuming to find previous discussion on these blogs, my memory is the plane from QF5/QF6 often did back-to-back two return trips, though not three, as operating days may not have allowed the latter.

Some 'nerdy' data : over the 15⅓ weeks of QF5/QF6 flights last season, after a single to start the service, the totals were : 7 triple back to backs, 5 double back to backs at start of week, 2 double back to backs at the end, and just one zero back to backs - i.e 3 separate aircraft. this last permutation was in the last week of the season.

 

[Melburnian1]

Still on Sunday 18 June, QF19 (A333 VH-QPI) was airborne at 1327 hours, so MNL arrival is estimated as 1923, 33 minutes late.

 

[Melburnian1]

Not helping the 15 hour late QF1's timekeeping (VH-OQK) is how the aircraft a few minutes ago had to enter a brief holding pattern southeast of SIN.

QF1 landed in SIN at 1248, so should be at the terminal c.1253 SIN time (my arbitrary five minute taxiing allowance, though at airports like SIN normally longer). If it can manage to take off at say 1520 hours, it could be at LHR's gate by around 2125 tonight UK time, but highly likely to take longer given QF1's general lethargy on the ground in Singapore. (QF suggests '2145' - a landing time - at LHR).

 

[Melburnian1]

Continuing with Sunday 18 June, A388 VH-OQK in SIN is showing as delayed further in pushback for LHR until 1510 local time: in the past, 10 minutes ago as I write. QF has changed its anticipated arrival into 'The City to 2200 hours, making it impossible for 'the 2' (due out at 2055 nightly) to depart before midnight, UK time (0900 AEST Monday 19).

A333 VH-QPG on QF81 (1150 hours very late morning SYD-SIN) was airborne on Sunday at 1235 so expected at gate time becomes half an hour tardy at 1845.

QF37 (1600 hours MEL-SIN) is the thrice weekly 'supplementary frequency'. Today it's an A332 that isn't expected to depart until the early to mid evening time of 2030 hours. It looks to be forming the return QF38, as that southbound's 2350 hours timetable has been altered to an unfortunate departure proposed for 0350 hours on Monday morning, 19 June.

 

[Flyerqf]

Considering the out of position A380 and 789 at the same time, the recovery has been far better than what we have seen previously.

 

[Melburnian1]

Considering the out of position A380 and 789 at the same time, the recovery has been far better than what we have seen previously.

Don't speak too soon, though I agree this time the crew and passengers are unlikely to end up temporarily in Baku.

QF1 is further delayed in SIN to an expected 1600 hours pushback for LHR, so that means arrival at LHR's gate at 2235 hours, 960 minutes late at the earliest.

QF's flight status page continues to show the Sunday 19 QF2 as departing at 2255, which is impossible, and then from SIN on Monday evening at 2100 for SYD, again mythical.

Even Heathrow Airport is displaying the mythical 2255 hours proposed departure, showing how it obtains its information from Qantas.

Given cabin crew from LHR to SIN is based in London not Australia, there may be flow-on adverse timekeeping ramifications, although we'll know more once the situation of Sunday night's ex-LHR QF2 is resolved. It's worthwhile to read Quickstatus' excellent summary of LHR air traffic restrictions during the 'small hours' a few posts above.

 

[Melburnian1]

QF25, the 2020 hours A333 from SYD up to HND is expected to depart at 2140, 80 late. This is due to A333 VH-QPE as QF104 from HNL down to SYD not arriving until 2017 on 18 June, 97 minutes late. QF104 has a shocking timekeeping record, and until QF25 becomes a B789 at the end of October 2023, delays to the latter will unfortunately continue some nights most weeks.

 

[Melburnian1]

It isn't yet visible on FR24's map of Singapore Changi airport, but QF states that QF1(D) departed at 1621 hours, 1006 minutes late.

UPDATE: A388 VH-OQK took off at 1639 bound for LHR.

 

[Flyerqf]

Don't speak too soon

Oops!

It isn't yet visible on FR24's map of Singapore Changi airport, but QF states that QF1 departed at 1621 hours, 1006 minutes late.

Top of the runway now about to depart. Visible on FR24.

 

[Melburnian1]

QF suggests QF1 will arrive LHR at 2248 hours late evening UK time on Sunday 18, 973 minutes late.