Qantas flight cancellation, costs incurred

vaccav

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I wondered if anyone can help with the following:

Qantas has just screwed us over as follows:
- original flight booking on Easter 'Tuesday' from Brisbane to Christchurch around 9.30am
- flight cancelled by qantas and they proposed to put us on a flight that leaves early that evening and gets in after midnight .. .. ie a 9 hour delay. We have a 2 hour travel once we land in Christchurch (with children) so we'd get to our destination after 3.00am. That doesn't really work for us so we declined that proposal.
- we agreed to go on a flight that was instead Maroochydore - Sydney - Christchurch with sensible flight times. All got locked in. Painful, but locked in. This all happened over the phone.
- After doing that we went to change the rental car booking to drop off in MCY instead of BRI and there's an extra cost of $350.

Our view is that this is definitely QF's fault. They made a decision to cancel the BRI-CHC flight. They might have even done that in order to make more money. We are P1 and called the P1 number to ask them to pay the $350 and the guy was pretty dismissive.

We won't claim this on travel insurance as its below the excess. We have lodged a formal complaint in the complaints process to see where this goes.

So my question are:

1. This must have come up before, has anyone had any success with lodging formal complaints on this stuff ?

2. They might be within their legal rights .. .. but this is appalling to stuff customers around and force them to incur more costs so they can make more money.

3. I take it someone has tried to take complaints like this to CTTT (in NSW) .. .. what happens when you do this, what is the CTTT decision ? Does the CTTT simply say "their t & c's protect them so the passenger loses" It used to be that the CTTT would propose that a company should try to sort out customer complaints but I don't know if that's still the case. I'd be fascinated to know if anyone has pursued this route.

4. I assume some people have also complained to the ACCC about this stuff / do they just send a standard response / any idea what the ACCC response is to items like this.

I suspect most people don't have the time to pursue things like this .. .. but y'know .. .. it is maddening when they are so so awful to their customers. Doesn't feel like Vanessa Hudson is being fair with this stuff.
 
I think because you accepted the alternative flights you are on the hook for the car rental changes. Maybe ring and try and get them to get you a BNE to SYD flight instead. They don;t have to do it, but they might
 
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I think because you accepted the alternative flights you are on the hook for the car rental changes. Maybe ring and try and get them to get you a BNE to SYD flight instead. They don;t have to do it, but they might
Hi .. thanks for the reply. They originally offered a BNE to SYD flight but it was extremely early: around 6.00am or 6.30am. As we are in Noosa for the long weekend (we live in SYD), it meant we'd have to get up at 3.00am or 4.00am, drive to Brisbane and get the flight from BRI to SYD to CHC. We declined that as it made much more sense to go from MCY.

I admit it was "our choice" to do that .. .. but we still think QF should be paying the extra cost for the rental car. It seems really unfair that they cancel flights like this and leave us with the cost (or the choice of getting up at 3.30am with the children.
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I am sorry to hear of your issues. Is the extra $350 for the flights or the car booking change as I was not quite sure?
Hi .. thanks for the reply and for reading my post. The extra $350 was incurred to change the car rental booking to return the car to MCY instead of returning it to BRI.
 
How did the conversation go to have you departing from MCY rather than BNE?
That's no exactly normal given the number of daily flights from BNE to SYD.

They offered to put us on the flight from BRI to SYD to CHC. However, it was a very early flight from BRI to SYD (around 6.30am) in order to get onto the flight from SYD to CHC. As we are holidaying in Noosa we'd have had to get up at 3.30am or so to make it to BRI. We turned that down.

In the course of the conversation, we explained we were in Noosa so they put us onto the MCY to SYD flight. It's early (7am), but its a lot closer to Noosa so we're getting up at 5.00am or so to make that flight. We accepted that as an ok-solution. It's MCY-SYD-CHC so not as good as flying direct from BRI to CHC .. .. but ok-ish.

After that we went to change the car rental and the car rental has charged $350 to drop off of MCY instead of BRI.

We'd rather fly from MCY than BRI .. .. and the indirect flight is a pain .. .. but its better than getting two kids out of bed at 3.30am and driving to BRI.
 
Unfortunately QF won't accept responsibility for "consequential losses" like your extra hire car fee.
You could investigate whether travel insurance would cover the extra cost.

If Australia had something like EU.261 your compensation payment for the cancelled flight would probably cover it!
 
Unfortunately QF won't accept responsibility for "consequential losses" like your extra hire car fee.
You could investigate whether travel insurance would cover the extra cost.

If Australia had something like EU.261 your compensation payment for the cancelled flight would probably cover it!
Thanks. We've looked at travel insurance and won't claim because the excess is too high.

It is useful to know that your experience is they won't cover the consequential loss / at the end of the complaints process.

Does anyone have any knowledge of what happens if you take these things to the CTTT in NSW ? Or what happens upon complaining to ACCC ? My guess is that the ACCC just file it with all the other complaints / there isn't any "specific" action from the ACCC if you complain to them (eg they ask Qantas to consider and advise their response to the ACCC).

I kinda "get" that its qantas' practice to not reimburse this. However, that doesn't make it right. It's patently unfair for them to cancel flights for commercial reasons and expect customers to just accept the losses incurred.
 
NZ departs BNE at 7:15 pm on Easter Tuesday so just as bad

Would this work? There’s a 1 stopper via Wellington

Departing flight
Tue 22 Apr


09:15
Brisbane Airport (BNE)
Travel time: 3 hrs 30 min
14:45
Wellington International Airport (WLG)
Air New Zealand NZ 272

1 hr 50 min layoverWellington (WLG)

16:35
Wellington International Airport (WLG)
Travel time: 1 hr 5 min
17:40
Christchurch International Airport (CHC)
Air New Zealand NZ 5373
 
Have you considered other car rental options/companies or tried to start a new one way rental booking to see if the same one-way fee applies?

Do you need a car in Noosa or could you consider transfers and uber for trips getting around? (Would that work out cheaper than $350..?)
 
It sucks for sure but I don’t think you’re going to get anywhere with this argument. Knowing that you would have to change your rental car return is ‘expected’ to be factored into your decision to take the MCY flights vice BNE.

Alternative: have you called the hire car company and explained to them the problem and see what solutions they can offer? Return earlier? Otherwise alter booking?
 

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