Qantas gets a poor review by Age editor

Status
Not open for further replies.
Yep have been on a flight or two with service and attitude like that. Thankfully the majority have been good to great. Like any airline it all comes down to the crew of the day.
 
I've had service like that on QF in J. I've also had awesome service on QF in Y. Inconsistency is their buzzword
 
I do understand that asking for amenities such as eye shades and toothbrushes in Economy is a bit of a drag and does come across as cost-cutting. Although this process certainly does help to prevent waste.
As for the attitude of the flight attendants, in all honesty, yes terrible service happens on QF on rare occasions, but it certainly does on all other airlines too.
 
Good to see the bashing alive and well going by the comments...
 
By comparison to other J experiences on other airlines, service we had on QF27/28 was pretty mediocre. One crew member of QF28 was excellent though.

Not saying the crew's behaviour (in the article) was acceptable but why did she not just go for a walk to the galley and ask there for her toothbrush? I would not expect crew to remember to bring me a toothbrush if I asked them while they were in pre departure mode - they have more important things to worry about then.
 
There is a CSM on board, it would be a simple matter of finding him / her, and making a quiet complaint.
If that didn’t work, then maybe it would deserve some column inches.
However, it shouldn’t come to that .
 
In a recent Dom J flight I took with QF, it was the CSM who didn't respond to my call light. I had politely rejected the meal (it was ordinary and I wasn't hungry), but I did want a second drink. After some time of unsuccessfully trying to gain the CSMs attention, I pressed the call button. That was also ignored. My desire for a second drink was not so desperate that my bemusement about how long it would take for the call light to be answered didn't take priority. He walked past a number of times, cleared plates from all others in the J cab, chatted continuously to the couple in 1A and 1B (but hardly threw a grunt at all the others) and still he didn't even bother looking at me (I was intending on simply gaining his attention from 1F). In the end, the lady sitting beside me stopped him on one of his passes.

Having said that, dealing with the public can regularly be problematic and frustrating for crew, but I think that write-up was required. The CSM is regularly as complicit as the crew with regard to poor service and let's face it, the CSM is supposed to be ensuring quality. If they did their job correctly, no complaint is necessary. Last year, VA Dom J was suffering badly with J cabs regularly a pig sty and crew hiding behind the curtains rather than doing their jobs. This year there has been a very noticeable improvement and I tend to believe poor reports on social media (including AFF) possibly spurred the VA management to look into those practices and stop them. Both airlines (VA & QF) tend to absolutely ignore their private customer feedback, but poor feedback widely read in the public domain tends to get results. That article will hopefully contribute to an improvement in service which may help many of us as well as QF. Companies should be doing their own ongoing QA checks and public reports of poor staff behaviour is a valid way of getting the message across.
 
We have all received the service on Qf described in the article , and to a lesser extent, even in the premium cabins. Maybe, maybe Qf might listen....
 
When traveling Y it’s aleays smart to BYO toiletries to avoid the cheap stuff airlines give or, like in this case, not give onboard. Having said that there are quite a few airlines that provide impressive amenities, including slippers on long haul Y.

Ignoring the call button is an ongoing issue on QF, not only in Y but also in J and even (although very rarely) in F. Slow response can happen on any airline for various reasons but FAs will usually apologise for that. On QF for some reason, ignoring the call button (especially on long haul flights between meal times when cabin lights are off) seem to be the norm and I never heard any apologies, quite the opposite actually.
 
I think most regular travellers do BYO toiletries, however infrequent travellers may simply forget or get caught by the size limitations.
 
...
On QF for some reason, ignoring the call button ... seems to be the norm and I never heard any apologies, quite the opposite actually.
Indeed, it was sometime in 1996 after about my first 100 QF flights that I personally renamed that call button as the ignore button.

Little has changed.
 
Read our AFF credit card guides and start earning more points now.

AFF Supporters can remove this and all advertisements

I think true QF FF'ers in Y know that the call button is pretty unreliable. Still, direct requests to crew usually have a pretty good result.

When I read the article I thought, I'd simply get up, go to the galley and ask. That's what I do when I want drinks and snacks in long-haul Y. While there I've noticed there's usually a small selection of items (eye masks, toothbrushes, socks) and as well as snacks placed out.

Re the toilets. That could be done better. But for sure it's not just QF.
 
Last edited:
You can't judge an airline on one flight.

I struggled to get Coke Light on one SQ flight in economy and I was quite thirsty. The Coke Light must have been coming out of her salary as she was bringing me half a cup and I had to ask her to bring me a full can.

Qantas isn't great but they are more than acceptable. Yes they can be inconsistent but that's no different to any airline. I generally find my call bell is answered quickly and with a friendly smile. And so far all flights with my wife and daughter have been good.
 
  • Like
Reactions: DC3
We haven’t had a problem for several years. The one we remember was the flight out of SFO where the plane was delayed and the crew pretty much all disappeared. I think they were too tired to work the aisles.
We have been fortunate to not be getting row 100 or equivalent in recent years.
 
You can't judge an airline on one flight

Agreed, there are bad flights there are good flights. I guess the problem is that if I get a bad flight it's compared to hundreds of other flights I've done, where as if a non FFer gets a bad flight it's potentially against a small handful of other flights and therefore going to have a much larger impression.

Of course we can't discount this authors decision to engage in QF bashing for the fun of it. Their job is to write articles that generate clicks, and QF bashing certainly does that.
 
Going to put my flame suit on just in case. Having read the comments following the article and those in this forum (and not just this thread) I get a feeling that it's wrong to 'Qantas bash'. Is that like one of those untouchable Australian institutions?
 
Going to put my flame suit on just in case. Having read the comments following the article and those in this forum (and not just this thread) I get a feeling that it's wrong to 'Qantas bash'. Is that like one of those untouchable Australian institutions?

Definitely not an untouchable Australian institution, however if you look at a lot of the comments, people lay the boot in without having flown QF for 20-30 years. A lot will comment for the sake of commenting.
 
Going to put my flame suit on just in case. Having read the comments following the article and those in this forum (and not just this thread) I get a feeling that it's wrong to 'Qantas bash'. Is that like one of those untouchable Australian institutions?

QF and VA are far from perfect and deserve to be criticised. Bashing? It’s an invention by over sensitive people who don’t understand business.
I did notice far less criticism (on international forums, not just Aussie) of certain airlines such as JAL, SQ, QR and other carriers because when a business provides decent product and good service it will receive less negative feedbacks, it’s as simple as that.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.

Become an AFF member!

Join Australian Frequent Flyer (AFF) for free and unlock insider tips, exclusive deals, and global meetups with 65,000+ frequent flyers.

AFF members can also access our Frequent Flyer Training courses, and upgrade to Fast-track your way to expert traveller status and unlock even more exclusive discounts!

AFF forum abbreviations

Wondering about Y, J or any of the other abbreviations used on our forum?

Check out our guide to common AFF acronyms & abbreviations.
Back
Top