Qantas' Impending Change to Tokyo Flight Schedule

[markis10]

They are not originating in Brisbane hence my question, if they where why would the change require accomodation there for connecting flights. It’s an important question as the changes may make another port more suitable

 

[Kateag2]

Where are you originating from?

Newcastle

However my real question is, if qantas changes a schedule that results in additional nights being required eg. An additional night in Tokyo and probably at Haneda; who is responsible. Qantas is stating if they give more than 72 hours notice, they are not responsible.

 

[Ouabain]

Newcastle

Post automatically merged: Yesterday at 1:17 PM

However my real question is, if qantas changes a schedule that results in additional nights being required eg. An additional night in Tokyo and probably at Haneda; who is responsible. Qantas is stating if they give more than 72 hours notice, they are not responsible.

coughs.

That said, if they are giving you enough time to change your itinerary, they should allow flight changes without any extra fees?

 

[markis10]

You are not locked into the routing, via SYD or Mel may make more sense

• QF80 Tokyo Haneda to Melbourne will depart at 9.55pm, arriving at 9.15am
• QF26 Tokyo Haneda to Sydney will depart at 10pm, arriving at 8.40am

The NRT SYD flight is yet to be confirmed as far as timings go and the airport change. Qantas won’t be liable for accomodation if there are alternatives that negate the need.

Qantas policy:

Rebooking​

Rebook to another QF operated and marketed flight or rebook to another QF marketed flight operated by Emirates if the schedule changed flight is operated by Emirates:

• On the same day; or
• A day either side; or
• To the next available; or
• To connecting QF operated and marketed flights as permitted by the route map; or
• To connecting QF marketed flights operated by Emirates or QF operated and marketed flights as permitted by the route map if the schedule changed flight is operated by Emirates; and
• In the same cabin and same class; or
• In the lowest available class in cabin (except P/U/Z/X) if the same class is not available.

Note: If a schedule change to a QF operated and marketed flight or QF marketed flight operated by Emirates causes a misconnection to another airline’s connecting flight, rebook:

• To an alternative connecting flight on the same airline; and
• In the same cabin and same class; or
• In the lowest available class in cabin if the same class is not available; or
• Rebook in accordance with the ticketed fare’s route map and permitted booking class

 

[Bundy Bear]

I am hoping they don't touch Narita to Brisbane flight, until like June, last flight Sunday 8 June from NRT will suit me fine.

I have no idea what Qantas will do.

 

[Princess Fiona]

Hi

I'm hoping someone can provide some clarity on this situation. I just spoke with Qantas, and I'm now more confused than before the call.

We are scheduled to fly to Tokyo in April via Brisbane. There have been several news articles detailing Qantas's planned schedule changes for the Brisbane to Tokyo leg, including a proposed shift in the return flight time from 9:30 pm to 6:50 am. This change would result in us missing our connecting flight and potentially requiring an extra night in Brisbane.

Who is responsible for the cost of the additional accommodation, potentially for two nights? Qantas informed me that as long as they provide 76 hours' notice, I am responsible for covering the accommodation costs, even though the schedule change is at their discretion.

QF is not responsible for any accommodation charges due to a schedule change for a flight in April.

As far as I’m aware none of the actual flight times have changed yet.
There is no need to do anything until and if you are notified.
I’m on the SYD flight in April and it’s still showing exactly the same departure time.

 

[markis10]

I am hoping they don't touch Narita to Brisbane flight, until like June, last flight Sunday 8 June from NRT will suit me fine.

I have no idea what Qantas will do.

Qantas have said the new flights will be in force by April 30 utilising the full capacity
Proposed flight schedule for Qantas’ Tokyo-Haneda services (subject to change and slot
availability)
Flight details Departs Arrives Schedule
QF61 Brisbane-Tokyo Haneda 1145 2000 Daily
QF62 Tokyo Haneda-Brisbane 0650 1645 Daily
QF79 Melbourne-Tokyo Haneda 1040 2015 Daily
QF80 Tokyo Haneda-Melbourne 2155 0915 Daily
QF25 Sydney-Tokyo Haneda 2030 0520 Daily
QF26 Tokyo Haneda-Sydney 2200 0840 Daily

 

[Bundy Bear]

Qantas have said the new flights will be in force by April 30 utilising the full capacity
Proposed flight schedule for Qantas’ Tokyo-Haneda services (subject to change and slot
availability)
Flight details Departs Arrives Schedule
QF61 Brisbane-Tokyo Haneda 1145 2000 Daily
QF62 Tokyo Haneda-Brisbane 0650 1645 Daily
QF79 Melbourne-Tokyo Haneda 1040 2015 Daily
QF80 Tokyo Haneda-Melbourne 2155 0915 Daily
QF25 Sydney-Tokyo Haneda 2030 0520 Daily
QF26 Tokyo Haneda-Sydney 2200 0840 Daily

There is a QF59/60 rotation in the schedule although
QF79 matches QF59 and QF26 matches QF60

Brisbane will eventually get the cough schedule and then drop it for a few months later because of low patronage.

I guess Qantas are hoping for a better departure time, although it allows the arriving QF25 to directly turn around.

 

[justinbrett]

QF59 is still running in May, I’m booked on it.

 

[milehighclub]

Qantas have said the new flights will be in force by April 30 utilising the full capacity

Qantas never said that, only that the application stated that they would like to start from 30th March. But there has been no confirmation that they have received that slot and the required approvals.

 

[elanshin]

Newcastle

However my real question is, if qantas changes a schedule that results in additional nights being required eg. An additional night in Tokyo and probably at Haneda; who is responsible. Qantas is stating if they give more than 72 hours notice, they are not responsible.

Realistically in those scenarios, they'll offer you alternatives or reroute you direct to SYD (you can even request it). But until they formally make this change, it's all up in the air and their call centre will likely have less information than AFF as a collective does about it.

 

[elanshin]

Qantas never said that, only that the application stated that they would like to start from 30th March. But there has been no confirmation that they have received that slot and the required approvals.

The iasc determination has already been granted and approved (up thread somewhere)a while back and the determination has Qantas "fully utilising the slot" by apr 30th

https://www.iasc.gov.au/sites/default/files/documents/2024-iasc-122-qf-japan.pdf

 

[milehighclub]

The iasc determination has already been granted and approved (up thread somewhere)a while back and the determination has Qantas "fully utilising the slot" by apr 30th

Oh didn't see that but interesting that was dated in September and they are still holding off, so perhaps something else is happening in the background

 

[Himeno]

Qantas never said that, only that the application stated that they would like to start from 30th March. But there has been no confirmation that they have received that slot and the required approvals.

They already have any government approvels they may need from both sides. If anything, they are waiting for confirmed slot times at HND and any ground handling contract changes they may need to sort out at the TYO airports.

We still don't know if they will keep the 4th AU-TYO flight (ie, shifting a SYD-HND to NRT).