Qantas is adding plant-based meals to its inflight menu… did this actually happen?

[dajop]

So I’m happy with “plant based” as not a fan of mushrooms and they are excluded from plant based foods as they are fungi not plants, right?

Yeh, nah, though not given that it’s a marketing and not a scientific term…

 

[Vic]

So a plant based meal is another descriptor for a vegan meal?

NO
Vegan is NO animal products, No eggs, no milk, no cheese. Nothing from an animal regardless of whether the animal had to die or not.

Vegie, which I consider to cover plant based, is no DEAD animals. Eggs, milk cheese are, can be, part of a Vegie diet. So cakes can be ok, but maybe not things that contain gelatin.

There is also pescatarian which is no meat but eats fish.

 

[Vic]

Not from what I've seen last week:
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There are plant based options on those menus, and the lounge menu even appears to have a vegan option (VG?)

 

[Guvner]

So all these plants have never been fertilised with any sort of animal waste? Asking for a friend.

 

[dajop]

NO
Vegan is NO animal products, No eggs, no milk, no cheese. Nothing from an animal regardless of whether the animal had to die or not.

Vegie, which I consider to cover plant based, is no DEAD animals. Eggs, milk cheese are, can be, part of a Vegie diet. So cakes can be ok, but maybe not things that contain gelatin.

There is also pescatarian which is no meat but eats fish.

I think those definitions are well established.

But taken literally "plant based" would exclude animal products, so it not vegan by definition? Of course it is a marketing, trendy, feel good term so it can mean whatever one likes really.

 

[AIRwin]

So I’m happy with “plant based” as not a fan of mushrooms and they are excluded from plant based foods as they are fungi not plants, right?

Mushroom was specifically cited:
Examples of the plant-based menu include celeriac gratin with roast fennel, peas, mushroom and onion sauce and a ratatouille pasta bake with a herb crumb, cauliflower and green beans.

New Qantas features to change the way you fly

Dear AFF'ers, Unsure if this is posted elsewhere. I searched the forum but couldn't find any references. According to this "news" news article, QF is introducing a few changes (it's a gradual roll-out) on how things will be once intl travel opens up on Monday (01/11)...

www.australianfrequentflyer.com.au

 

[RooFlyer]

"plant based" doesn’t strictly exclude meat and meat products in the meal, surely? Depends what you build on the base. Otherwise it’s just vegetation?

 

[Vic]

I think those definitions are well established.

But taken literally "plant based" would exclude animal products, so it not vegan by definition? Of course it is a marketing, trendy, feel good term so it can mean whatever one likes really.

My interpretatin of plant based, considers the meaning of "based" = The foundation or starting point. Plants are the foundation of the meal not the whole mean, as I read it.
Plant based burgers - plants as the "meat", but we know that all good burgers need an egg to hold the "meat" together.

edit: yes, plant excludes animals, but plant based removes the exclusion.

 

[Daver6]

NO
Vegan is NO animal products, No eggs, no milk, no cheese. Nothing from an animal regardless of whether the animal had to die or not.

Vegie, which I consider to cover plant based, is no DEAD animals. Eggs, milk cheese are, can be, part of a Vegie diet. So cakes can be ok, but maybe not things that contain gelatin.

There is also pescatarian which is no meat but eats fish.

I don't understand how you can consider vegetarian to be plant based if vegetarian includes milk and eggs. Either I don't understand what a plant is or it's not plant based. Is a quiche (which is predominately egg and dairy, assuming using real eggs and dairy) a plant based meal?

My main point is not to pick apart what people choose to eat. But if the definition of plant based is so vague and open to individual interpretation, can you imagine the outrage on a flight when someone's "plant based meal" isn't to their definition? Airlines will be setting themselves up for failure going down this path.

 

[Vic]

I don't understand how you can consider vegetarian to be plant based if vegetarian includes milk and eggs. Either I don't understand what a plant is or it's not plant based. Is a quiche (which is predominately egg and dairy, assuming using real eggs and dairy) a plant based meal?

My main point is not to pick apart what people choose to eat. But if the definition of plant based is so vague and open to individual interpretation, can you imagine the outrage on a flight when someone's "plant based meal" isn't to their definition? Airlines will be setting themselves up for failure going down this path.

refer to my post above yours (with spelling error). It's all about the meaning of the word "based". it does not mean only. Yes, it is vague.

anyway, ending this now before I get banished to the grammar thread

My interpretatin of plant based, considers the meaning of "based" = The foundation or starting point. Plants are the foundation of the meal not the whole mean, as I read it.
Plant based burgers - plants as the "meat", but we know that all good burgers need an egg to hold the "meat" together.

edit: yes, plant excludes animals, but plant based removes the exclusion.

 

[La Mouette]

I see a vegetarian option on the first lounge menu and each course of the J menu posted upthread...

Yes, I noticed that… means I won’t starve to death (just may be left hungry based on what those options entail lol).

Why don't you order a special meal as a backup? If the one V option on the menu looks more edible, you can ask for that instead.

 

[Anna]

As cows eat grass (or sometimes grain) and chickens eat grain, then surely milk and eggs are ultimately plant-based?

 

[AIRwin]

Plant-based diet doesn’t always mean it’s healthy

As we ring in the new year and people announce their resolutions and goals for 2022, many opt for getting healthy, cutting out drinking or starting a new hobby. Vegan magazines and organizations are pushing plant-based diets — calling it the “ultimate new year’s resolution.”

www.todayonline.com