Qantas New Domestic Business Lounges

[oz_mark]

Personally, I think Qantas Club membership, including joining fees, has been way too low in the last few years. Oh, sorry, if that mean less people in the lounges then all the better....

I suspect that Qantas were quite focussed on tieing up the corporate market before Virgin Blue had the competitive products. Offering corporate discounts on the club were part of their marketing. I think they have less need to offer the discounts now.

 

[brucek]

I was in the QF Club in MEL recently as was my wife in its SYD lounge. Neither of us were impressed with either offering. I used to visit a friend who commutes from HBT to the mainland frequently at the QF Club in the 90s and was always impressed. I wish I could say the same today.

 

[garyjohn951]

I was in Camberra Lounge around midday today [sunday], and I wish it had a J lounge.
Why.

Well, I coUnted in the first part of the lounge the following 2A 2C; 2A 3C; 2A 1C; 2A; 2A 4C; 3A; 2A 2C; 2A 2C; 1A; 2A 3C; 2A 2C; 2A 1C.

Thankfully went around the corner to near bar and about 6 adults here but seating is very limited for 4A. Lucky bar guy was able to change TV there to Olympics.

Obviously Children are exempt as guests are they !!

 

[acampbel]

I was in Camberra Lounge around midday today [sunday], and I wish it had a J lounge.
Why.

Well, I coUnted in the first part of the lounge the following 2A 2C; 2A 3C; 2A 1C; 2A; 2A 4C; 3A; 2A 2C; 2A 2C; 1A; 2A 3C; 2A 2C; 2A 1C.

Thankfully went around the corner to near bar and about 6 adults here but seating is very limited for 4A. Lucky bar guy was able to change TV there to Olympics.

Obviously Children are exempt as guests are they !!

Technically a guest is a guest is a guest, but in my experience Qantas usually let a QC member in with spouse and kids. My questions for you are :-

1. Were any of the children misbehaving?
2. How many of the family groups consisted of just one member?
3. Do you think they ban kids in the J lounges? Do you think they should?
4. What other types of people would you prefer not to see in your lounge?

Cheers,


Andrew

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[garyjohn951]

Technically a guest is a guest is a guest, but in my experience Qantas usually let a QC member in with spouse and kids. My questions for you are :-

1. Were any of the children misbehaving?
2. How many of the family groups consisted of just one member?
3. Do you think they ban kids in the J lounges? Do you think they should?
4. What other types of people would you prefer not to see in your lounge?

Cheers,


Andrew

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1. Majority were "heemed" in by the seating of 2 seats facing 2 seats, however there were a couple of toddlers who felt the walkways were there playground !!

2. Good question, hard to say but If I was betting man - not many.

3. Actually no I don't think kids should be banned from J lounges, BUT they should strictly control the guest numbers.. 2a 2C on one member, should be sorry QC is that way.

4. If a person is qualified as member then they are in. No preference at all.

 

[simongr]

1. What other types of people would you prefer not to see in your lounge?

Cheers,


Andrew

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Following up on your attack on JohnK in your "white australia policy" post can we out you as someone who assumes that all people who aren't you are white racist bigots who hate everyone.

I am sick of your moral superiority and constant attacks on people with a thinly veiled attitude of moral superiority.

Try posting about travel rather than abusing other forum members on a recurrent basis.

 

[taswegian77]

I travel a lot and I really have no problems with those allowed to access the lounge to bring in their immediate family when traveling. Young children are just that, young and my general experience is that they have never caused me troubles. Some are a little precious of the lounges!

 

[straitman]

Most of us were yound once but some seem to have forgotten what it was like. As for the others, well.........

 

[acampbel]

Following up on your attack on JohnK in your "white australia policy" post can we out you as someone who assumes that all people who aren't you are white racist bigots who hate everyone.

I am sick of your moral superiority and constant attacks on people with a thinly veiled attitude of moral superiority.

Try posting about travel rather than abusing other forum members on a recurrent basis.

The White Australia Policy was merely the formalisation of a common phenomena - the last people to get in always want to keep everyone else out. There is probably another more generic name for it .... feel free to educate me.

And if the worst criticism you can make of me is that I am morally superior ... then you are not trying very hard!

And speaking of moral superiority - who do you want to exclude from your lounge? I would start a poll on the subject but I could never possibly imagine all the categories that people might like to include. My list is simple .... I would like to exclude anyone who wants to exclude other people.

Now sod off while I disappear up my own logical loop.


Cheers,

Andrew

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[MelUser]

I was in a party of 3 domestic paid business class - ie not points business nor upgrade business - the real thing. We tried to get 2 guests in and the man on the door said no way. It was Sat and was quiet - I went in myself to have a look. We stayed in the Q Club lounge which was fine.

However, I was disappointed with the way our party was treated. Now I know that someone on here will fire back and say that QF was not obliged to let quests in and they are the rules etc etc but really Sat morning - quiet - etc - it wouldn't have hurt anyone.

By the way, I have noticed a downgrade in Melbourne of Qantas Club facilities, I spoke to the lady doing the catering and she said they have reduced food quality/variety in Qantas Club so as to have a point of differentiation with the J lounge.

 

[Keith009]

By the way, I have noticed a downgrade in Melbourne of Qantas Club facilities, I spoke to the lady doing the catering and she said they have reduced food quality/variety in Qantas Club so as to have a point of differentiation with the J lounge.

Instead of upgrading catering in the J lounge?? Unbelievable!
Has QF recently hired some former SQ bean counters or what?!

 

[ozscot]

It's been said before on another thread that the lounge is just a waiting room for public transport. I think it's just that, and there's not really anything to gain from agonising over QF's access policies.

I enjoy the lounge facilities and explicitly fly OW to maintain my access privileges and seating selections but I'm under no illusion it's some sort of up market sanctuary of calm.

You can get a beer and a shower. Get on line and sometimes get something decent to eat. You're still just sitting waiting for a plane though, and if the place is rammed with other people waiting for a plane, or kids playing in the aisles good on them. Under whatever policy or discretion QF has allowed them access so they've got every right to enjoy the facilities as the next person. Personally I'd much rather have kids running around me than self important twits yelling into their mobiles but YMMV - it's public transport so you're going to have to deal with the general public waiting for it.

Cheers,
Steve.

 

[garyjohn951]

It's been said before on another thread that the lounge is just a waiting room for public transport.
Cheers,
Steve.

I don't remember paying a $400+ to wait for the last bus or train I took :shock:

I would suggest the gate lounges are like a train waiting area, not the QC

 

[simongr]

Also I have never been offer Moet at the train station

 

[JohnK]

However, I was disappointed with the way our party was treated.

Interesting point about not allowed guests even though 3 of you were travelling business class. A couple of weeks ago I was at the counter in the SYD J lounge and a man walked up to the other end of the counter, produced his Platinum card and mentioned that there is also a Chairmans lounge on the way and there 7 of them alltogether. Not a word was said and they all got J lounge access.

 

[possumoz]

I was under the impression you were allowed one guest into the J lounge. I had no trouble taking a guest into both the SYD and BNE J lounges at the end of July. In fact we checked in together at the J lounge counter in SYD. I was in J my, friend wasn't, and there was no problem..apart from the sympathetic look from the check-in woman. But as I've said in other posts, i seem to have led a very charmed life flying Qantas compared to others..back to my own little world..

 

[dajop]

I would suggest the gate lounges are like a train waiting area, not the QC

Nah, gate lounges are a sanctuary of calm and quiet. Try them one day. Qantas Clubs' are just pubs/bars at an airport complete with door bouncers for those that operators don't deem fit for entry

 

[QF WP]

QC staff don't make the rules, they enforce them - they make an access decision based on the Qantas Club policy (status and number of members allowed, giving some lattitude to family groups). They always retain the right to refuse entry for any number of good reasons (some of which I've even been at the other end of previously ).

I have always understood that it is the responsibility of parents to supervise their children in the QC. They have not transferred that responsibility to the QC staff to "babysit" their children when they pass through the QC door.

Should they abrogate their responsibility, one has to decide whether to first approach the parents (nicely asking them) to better supervise their children. If they fail in their duty, then I would have no hesitation in approaching the QC staff. I would expect others to do the same to me, if my 17 month old was not behaving or I wasn't meeting my parental role and responsibility to others.

Do unto others as you would wish done unto you....

 

[JohnK]

I was under the impression you were allowed one guest into the J lounge.

Is that one guest per day? I had no trouble bringing in 2 guests, at different times, to the J lounge. Not sure if anyone would have noticed, or even stopped me, from bringing in more guests. It is not easy to remember who has guested who into any lounge that is relatively busy....

 

[QF WP]

Possumoz, the QC entry criteria, for all forms of QFF and QC membership, is here. As you are Platinum, it's 2 guests for QC (Domestic Lounges) but only 1 for International First & Business Lounges.

JohnK, an interesting point. A Platinum member can enter a Domestic Lounge with 2 guests and their card validity will be checked by the CSA on duty at the Reception Desk. If that same Plat was to exit and go back in with another 2 guests and if their card is checked by another CSA, then there may be the right to enter. Has been done before at SYD Domestic :shock:

At some point, I feel that QF will tighten security procedures and perhaps members will be scanned in (using card or BP reader) at entry and then a check can be performed that there is single entry per member. Of course, it is usually per flight, but some Plats have been known to stretch the system